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| agree with a lot of what you say tommy but what ilk do you put george griffin in he did dominate our pack n that first half but george is no journeyman prop hes only 20yrs old and in my eyes as got a big career ahead in the game dont put him in the same ilk as ryan boyle and others
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| Hi guy's as a Cas fan(and no not here to gloat) i think you are missing Sykes badly.
With him out of your team you look woeful at times. No structure going forward and missing him with his defensive skills(from what i have seen).
As for the Agar out thread. Watch the half time section very carefully where it shows you Agar in the dressing room,read his body language and that of the players and lip read Agar,he has lost most players attention.
Good luck for rest of season,except your last home league game of course
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| Quote: C.o.C_is_Back "Hi guy's as a Cas fan(and no not here to gloat) i think you are missing Sykes badly.
With him out of your team you look woeful at times. No structure going forward and missing him with his defensive skills(from what i have seen).
As for the Agar out thread. Watch the half time section very carefully where it shows you Agar in the dressing room,read his body language and that of the players and lip read Agar,he has lost most players attention.
Good luck for rest of season,except your last home league game of course
I can't i binned it, ran out of space and needed to record " price drop tv" shame i know
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| Quote: vastman "That's just making excuses for your particular golden boy. Yes it doesn't help but it's no excuse for not tackling or running at the line or any of the other basics he isn't carrying out. Come on he needs a kick up the bum. If you're going to be the No1 players that's part of the price - you have to be there on your game at least 80% of the time, not the current 40%.'"
My golden boy? How did you come by this information?
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| Quote: vastman "Truth is Rangi Chase is ten times the player and it hurts to say. Worse still he doesn't compete with previous Trinity halves either. Nowhere near as good as Brough who we have never managed to replace. Not as good as Jeffries and just about on a par with Rooney who at least scored occasionally.'"
I'm probably Brough's biggest fan on here, so I'm willing to be shot down, but we'll never replace a half like him without difficulty thanks to the supporters who won't accept someone with attitude and fire over "giving 110%" and other such rubbish. Yes he had a go at teammates, was unprofessional and whatever, but he was a bloody good rugby league footballer, and we don't see many of them down at Belle Vue.
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| Tim Smith is showing the sort of form at the moment that he was in the NRL. If his confidence goes completely we could be looking at long end to this season. I think that are forwards are the best part of our team at the moment. We do get go forward but either make a silly error or end are sets badly. We are the only team that struggles to build any sort of pressure. Also we never got any go forward from the back 3, the opposition seem to have worked us out.
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| Quote: RealSteel89 "Tim Smith is showing the sort of form at the moment that he was in the NRL. If his confidence goes completely we could be looking at long end to this season. I think that are forwards are the best part of our team at the moment. We do get go forward but either make a silly error or end are sets badly. We are the only team that struggles to build any sort of pressure. Also we never got any go forward from the back 3, the opposition seem to have worked us out.'"
It's a funny game, I completely disagree. I think most of our go forward comes from Cockayne, Fox and Mathers because they are quick out of the blocks and usually get quick play the balls. I think we struggle up the middle and the forwards lose the collision and don't get a quick play the ball.
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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "I'm probably Brough's biggest fan on here, so I'm willing to be shot down, but we'll never replace a half like him without difficulty thanks to the supporters who won't accept someone with attitude and fire over "giving 110%" and other such rubbish. Yes he had a go at teammates, was unprofessional and whatever, but he was a bloody good rugby league footballer, and we don't see many of them down at Belle Vue.'"
Whats that got to do with anything, just for the record he left for a bag of money and no other reason.
Why try to blame the fans
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| I tend to agree - for the last few games, our back-line has saved us from being penned in our own half, either from kick returns or scooting from dummy half and stealing good metres.
Our forwards don't seem able to get a roll on - with the exception of Amor, very few get their nose through the line and we don't seem to have much of an off-load game; even if we did, I'm not sure the runners are there to support it.
On the up-side, TT does look like a forward who can bump off a tackler or two and get the ball away; provided he doesn't get in the habit of throwing it when it's not on, that could be an asset.
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| Quote: bren2k "I tend to agree - for the last few games, our back-line has saved us from being penned in our own half, either from kick returns or scooting from dummy half and stealing good metres.
Our forwards don't seem able to get a roll on - with the exception of Amor, very few get their nose through the line and we don't seem to have much of an off-load game; even if we did, I'm not sure the runners are there to support it.
On the up-side, TT does look like a forward who can bump off a tackler or two and get the ball away; provided he doesn't get in the habit of throwing it when it's not on, that could be an asset.'"
I agree with all that. Also we are the only team in SL without any midfield pace. Like you said if someone makes a break there is no one in centre field to capitlise. The only time you see it happen is if Cockayne is loitering in the middle.
If we are going to persist with smith (I agree with vasty on his ability) we need a quick running half as a foil and to provide the pacey running/ backing up game Smith lacks.
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| Quote: jack in the box "If we are going to persist with smith (I agree with vasty on his ability) we need a quick running half as a foil and to provide the pacey running/ backing up game Smith lacks.'"
Couldn't agree more - we are desperately in need of a good quality SO to work with Smith; one who can take the line on and has a decent kick - our last tackle options are woeful unless we're 5 yards out, meaning we have absolutely no game management.
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| I watched the game and was embarrassed are weakness's haven't been addressed thats down to ra, powell is a smart coach all he told them to do was run at smith who can't defend and kick to the backs who can't catch, simple and it worked.We have had numerous failures at catching the ball for 2 seasons in our backs so beasting players seems childish what do we do in training?.As for the backs why aren't are forwards taking the the ball up its all disjointed to me and is clearly down to poor coaching.I would love to see a forward storm onto a ball to make the opposition work but all we do is overrun it or fumble the telegraphed drop off.
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| Quote: El Rey "Whats that got to do with anything, just for the record he left for a bag of money and no other reason.
Why try to blame the fans
Because there were plenty of threads slagging him off while here for all that kind of stuff. Yes he left for the money of course, but we dp have people who are happy just with effort at the expense of talent nd can't accept that some have minds of their own rather than are just sheep.
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| We did tell you.
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| Here we go
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