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| Quote: jack in the box "Trout is still very young for a forward. I have been watching him a number of years and I think he has what it takes. I don't know how far he'll go in the game and like you I believe [sizehe may just make a good honest clubman.[/size But we need those types of player especially when they are your own.'"
If he turns into a Jonny Thompson or Nigel Bell he will do for me
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| Quote: PHe "One thing that I've estalished is that you aint RA, as Lucas is not in the squad
And i'm happy not to be
Is he injured.
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| Quote: El Rey "And i'm happy not to be
Tight hamstring picked up in training. Didn't want to risk him.
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| Really struggle to see what he sees in trout, he's a liability in defence and makes the wrong choices in attack, he's not experienced enough! Id pick mariano over trout every day of the week! Trout is no where near super league standard yet
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| Quote: Ash_WTW "Really struggle to see what he sees in trout, he's a liability in defence and makes the wrong choices in attack, he's not experienced enough! Id pick mariano over trout every day of the week! Trout is no where near super league standard yet'"
How does he get 'experience' by not playing?
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| Play him in twentys, or loan him out get him some team experience he's not big enough for a second rower in super league anyway but it's a valid point
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| Mellars & Trout should be dropped out of the 19. The centres should be Sykes & Collis.
Mariano is a super league second row which he proved last season who has size, power and speed. He needs a chance as does Matt James, both should be on the bench.
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| Quote: GET EM ON SIDE REF "I like young Trout but to say both Ellis and him are an unknown quantity is a bit off the mark Ellis has a proven track record in SL after all he was Quins player of the season'"
Jeez this is getting difficult - he's unknown to us in a Trinity shirt playing in this team - how many times have we seen him with our own eyes - yes clearly in terms of reputation there is a world of difference. However a both you and I have found to our cost reputation can count for very little when the pull on a Trinity shirt.
It's not about the particular players it's about NGBC ability to give Smith half a season to prove himself and then writing Trout off after about 80 minutes.
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| Quote: Ash_WTW "Really struggle to see what he sees in trout, he's a liability in defence and makes the wrong choices in attack, he's not experienced enough! Id pick mariano over trout every day of the week! Trout is no where near super league standard yet'"
You are NGBC wife I claim my £5.
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| Quote: Ash_WTW "Really struggle to see what he sees in trout, he's a liability in defence and makes the wrong choices in attack, he's not experienced enough! Id pick mariano over trout every day of the week! Trout is no where near super league standard yet'"
Ash i really struggle to belive that you actually watch the game ( I Apologize before going all phil clarke like but its got to be done) you have only to look at the stats hes made 3 apperances and hasnt missed one tackle, so i dont see were your coming from there. Another thing you mentioned is that he makes wrong decsions in attack? He runs the ball in because hes`s a prop not a half back ! its very hard to get wrong. Jesus Some fans really have no patience, give the kid a break, stop moaning and get behind him !
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| Quote: RebelRebel "Then a decent coach should find it pretty simple. Give the guy who's crocked time to get fit, give the guy who's underperforming time in the reserves, and give the guys who are going well in the U20s a chance to show what they can do. It's not like we're going to get relegated. The whole point of franchises on the playing side is supposed to be to bring the young British players through. They don't have to play a whole season, but a couple of games and a sniff of blood won't do them any harm. At least they'll know the level they have to aim at.'"
If we need a centre, then give Cowling a run. I would prefer him there than Walshaw, IMO I still think Walshaw is very raw in many aspects of his game. Cowling has been playing strong, with good defence, hitting the gaps when the ball comes his way and offloads to his winger well.
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| Cowling looks like a very good prospect along with walshaw. If we can keep a few of these young players and bring them
In over 2 seasons we will benefit from it.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "Cowling looks like a very good prospect along with walshaw. If we can keep a few of these young players and bring them
In over 2 seasons we will benefit from it.'"
My rule of thumb is that you need to produce about two - three players a season. Any more tends to cause a glut with too many players at the same level.
Any less is not good enough to build from.
This year if Trout, Walshaw and Maybe Wildie get a few runs that for me is a good year. Next year Cowling etc.
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| Quote: vastman "So what has Ellis and Mariano shown you yet? My god you talk some babba sometimes.
As ever you miss the point, I'm not suggesting his selections are correct - what I'm saying - and it really shouldn't need spelling out - is that Agar clearly intends to stick to his guns selection wise - do you get it yet?'"
THEY HAVEN'T SHOWN OWT YET BECAUSE THEY HAVENT HAD A RUN IN THE TEAM YOU TOOL
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| Quote: vastman "Making the point to NGBC that you can't on the one hand say you've seen nowt from Trout and then on the other hand demand Ellis get's picked - because as you say he's an unknown quantity as is Trout. NGBC only backs named players, seems to absolutely hate any player who is a: Local b: Come up through the Academy c: Isn't a Samaon d: is a forward under 6"10 and thus a midget.
What did I say nothing against Trout but not once he has done owt in the first team. Trout out Frankie in ! Walshaw done well and shown glimmers. Lets keep him in because he is from Portabello and let Frankie rot away on the bench. Nobody has a given right to be in the team. Not even your loveboast Isaac John .
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