Thats fine i'll also challenge that, we all have views and opinions but some cant stand being challenged.

I DONT know either of those 2 posters tbh, i was refering 2 others on here.

Yesterday I would have voted 'yes' after today's game it's now a 'no'. I am fed up of one pass rugby! Any other team would have scored 40 past the Crusaders today!

JK was interviewed on radio leeds and I have never heard him so downbeat and upset at that second half performance, he almost couldnt speak that his time at WTW would end up like this! He also said "These players will face Warrington next and they could get 100 past them..." i.e not US but them...

thanks john for saving us! but im tired, the players are tired,the fans are tired so lets bid farewell and i hope your successful in whatever you do next cheers

Crusaders coach Iestyn Harris refused to answer questions when facing the media for the first time since his club's withdrawal from Super League.

Harris made only a short statement after his side's 40-6 victory at Wakefield this afternoon and did not give any indication of his feelings over the club's demise.

Crusaders unexpectedly withdrew their application to compete in the Engage Super League for the 2012-14 seasons on Monday, the day before the Rugby Football League announced which 14 teams would be awarded licences.

Harris said: "I would just like to thank all the players for their efforts today in really difficult circumstances.

"They did themselves and their families proud.

"In regards to a statement from us, we have got a meeting with the RFL this week and then off the back of that we will be making a statement or press conference at the back end of this week coming up."

The withdrawal of Crusaders leaves most of their players without contracts for next year, but they looked far from demoralised as they crushed the Wildcats at the Rapid Solicitors Stadium.

Wakefield began the afternoon in party mood after the decision of Crusaders handed them an unexpected reprieve in the competition, but their celebrations soon turned flat.

Coach John Kear was also not in the most talkative of moods as he refused to speak about the additional surprising news from yesterday that he is to leave the club at the end of the season.

However, Kear did not mince his words as he conveyed his dismay at the Wildcats' display.

Kear said: "The first half was acceptable because it was competitive but the second half was woeful.

"You can see why the spectators were disgruntled. I can't argue with that because if I'd paid money I'd have been very disgruntled.

"The team looked as if they didn't care and they weren't trying."

Crusaders led only 6-0 after an attritional first half but ran in six tries as they eased to victory after the break.

Their players thanked their healthy contingent of travelling fans for their loyalty by throwing their shirts into the crowd after the final hooter.

Kear said: "We have reacted in a surreal way to a surreal week.

"There some players out of contract and looking to stay here or move elsewhere but they won't do it playing like that.

"Crusaders looked like they put a good job advert in today. We were totally the opposite.

"You may think I think, 'I'm not going to be here, so it doesn't matter,' but it does matter.

"It matters a great deal and it hurts me a great deal because I am a proud man. My boys did not play like proud men.

Or the coach saying it looks like we aren't trying as a reason.

Again Al I'll support the club this week via the club shop and have something other than 80 minutes of disgrace to show for it.

There's more to being a supporter than having a laugh with your clique, sorry mates, in front of the bottle bar. More to being a supporter than verbally attacking fellow supporters each week.

'Support Wakefield or die.' That should be the motto next season to please the clique on here!

Will you or won't you ?

Bigal has some good points too

Again , to be fair to the sometimes rather tedious LA, its a valid point, I posted years ago on here that we were like a gentlemans club, we want more fans and supporters but only if they are "of our kind", Ill admit I resent the new shirt brigade suddenly coming back when we win 4 or five games, see after leeds at home last for all the best examples!

Weirdly that was the same game, with brough not playing as he was off to hudds, that i knew the game was up. tronc went soon after, and to be honest we will take years to get back to that point,if we ever do.

Broughs and Troncs in the same team dont come around often to a small Rl club.