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| George played well at centre I cant believe you said hes been as good as murphy you obviously didnt go away to Hull ! Murphy FB George centre . Blaymire is steady but offers us nothing.
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "George played well at centre I cant believe you said hes been as good as murphy you obviously didnt go away to Hull ! Murphy FB George centre . Blaymire is steady but offers us nothing.'"
I said he is a better centre this season than Murphy not a better player
Keep Blaymire at F/B because at the moment he still offers plenty, play Murphy on the wing where he can steady that flank and where he will continue to learn.
Remember we are not talking forever here, just the next game.
Now as ever I will attempt to explain where you have it wrong - again.
I know Murphy had a very good game at Hull - so what - this is where fans like you get it so wrong. A player has a bad game and he's bad forever, another one has a great game and he's beyond reproach - it don't work like that. Apart from that one game Murph has had a distinctly ordinary season. Yes I appreciate his loyalty but in pure playing terms that is how it is.
As for Blaymire, how can a "steady" player "offer nothing" can you not spot the contradiction - when there is no place for steady players in RL we may as well call it a day.
Just think before you type, you never know....
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| Has anybody actually seen Jarrad Hickey play? Or are we making the old tried and tested mistake of assuming he is a belter as he is an Aussie?
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| Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "Has anybody actually seen Jarrad Hickey play? Or are we making the old tried and tested mistake of assuming he is a belter as he is an Aussie?'"
Exactly the point I was making. As I say George and Blaymire and the rest have there failings but we know them, most of us know naff all about Hickey as a player and even far less as a person. Regardless of ability who knows if he will settle with us, just look at Tronc.
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| Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "Has anybody actually seen Jarrad Hickey play? Or are we making the old tried and tested mistake of assuming he is a belter as he is an Aussie?'"
I'll bet a quid that our coaching staff do indeed know about his playing strengths and styles. If they think he fits...
You only have to read these forums to see that very few fans indeed know anything at all about the game - I suppose that's why we are fans and not pro coaches...
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| Quote: dboy "I'll bet a quid that our coaching staff do indeed know about his playing strengths and styles. If they think he fits...
You only have to read these forums to see that very few fans indeed know anything at all about the game - I suppose that's why we are fans and not pro coaches...'"
Indeed, we are all touchline internationals to one degree or another - although some do appear to be a wee bit stranger than most.
At the end of the day we are not in the camp so it's all guess work IMHO.
As for Hickey, I'm sure he fits the bill but for me that's not the issue - it's more a case of will he and his family fit in like a JD or not like a Tronc. Tronc was a good player for us for a while but as a signing he was a disaster. Unfortunately with these type of overseas players it's very expensive to find out if they are going to work.
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| We have people at the club whose job it is to recruit, coach, play etc...
As much as I may not like a particular player, if he's in red, white and blue, then he's playing for my club and playing for me!
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas " Blaymire is steady but offers us nothing.'"
He offers us security as the last line of defence, hardly nothing is it.
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| Quote: ry21 "Can I ask why?'"
I've never been a fan of Blaymire, I feel we lose valuable yards with his 'slugish' return of kicks. Don't want to get into a slanging match like last time I said this, but I just think in Murphy we have a much better full back.
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| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "I've never been a fan of Blaymire, I feel we lose valuable yards with his 'slugish' return of kicks. Don't want to get into a slanging match like last time I said this, but I just think in Murphy we have a much better full back.'"
So apart from his apparent 'sluggish' running what else did you see wrong with his game?
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| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "I've never been a fan of Blaymire, I feel we lose valuable yards with his 'slugish' return of kicks. Don't want to get into a slanging match like last time I said this, but I just think in Murphy we have a much better full back.'"
That's your opinion, to which you are fully entitled.
My opinion is that Blaymire is the best fullback at the club. Remember we are a side that usually ends up doing more defending than attacking and so for our team a "solid" defensive fullback is more important than a less solid attacking fullback. I think Murphy has done very well at fullback when he has played but I still worry less with Blaymire at the back.
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| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "I've never been a fan of Blaymire, I feel we lose valuable yards with his 'slugish' return of kicks. Don't want to get into a slanging match like last time I said this, but I just think in Murphy we have a much better full back.'"
Would you prefer he ran it back with purpose, thus risking losing the ball in collision?
That's not a leading question - some of the top coaches do want that from players on kick return and they accept the percentages.
I guess the Kear prefers the safer option and has coached Blaymire accordingly.
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| Quote: J.T "So apart from his apparent 'sluggish' running what else did you see wrong with his game?'"
I don't think he's safe under the high ball, particularly when under pressure. And I feel more secure with Murphy as our last line of defence than I do Blaymire.
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| It's good to have a discussion about these players, Blaymire, Murphy, Penny, Johnson, Griffin, George, Dean, Morton all English.
FWIW i'd go with Blaymire at the back, with Murphy and Griffin on the wings. Stick with Dean and George in the centres.
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| Quote: dboy "Would you prefer he ran it back with purpose, thus risking losing the ball in collision?
That's not a leading question - some of the top coaches do want that from players on kick return and they accept the percentages.
I guess the Kear prefers the safer option and has coached Blaymire accordingly.'"
Personally I'd like him to be more attacking, even if that means taking more risks.
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