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Quote: wildcat13 "Kicking game was ok.Also was trying to do it all himself cos smith was practically non existent.'"


I don't doubt he was trying, and I agree over Smith. I just don't see either of them as our answer, and they're in a key position which could make the difference in gelling together a potentially decent team, as today all I saw was a bunch of young lad trying, but in a really patchy and disorganised way. Too much of that, and heads will drop and that potential will be lost.

I'll try my best to support the likes of Lee and Smith, but I can't claim to be optimistic that either of them will flourish into the role. Talking on the way back to the car after the game, the fear is they are Kear utility players, interchangable at 6/7/9/13, or so we are led to believe, but not really good enough. I can understand why we've ended up with stop gaps again, I just really think the one part of the team worth spending on is a proper scrum half.

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Fully agree and we can only support the team on the pitch.A sh is a priority as it has been for 12 months but JK doesn't seem to realise and is overloading with fullbacks and wingers.Think if BJ had been fit today the kicking game and organisation would have been better.

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Quote: bloomers "I'll try my best to support the likes of Lee and Smith, but I can't claim to be optimistic that either of them will flourish into the role.'"


Smith was poor for two full seasons at Salford he is a one trick pony giving the ball back on the inside ! If your looking for creativity and spark he is not your man. Passenger.

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Smith was as poor as what we have seen week in week out at salford last 2 years,kevin penny wants to give up rl and was a one season wonder at wire 3 years ago,korki has always been a fav of mine and you can tell his heart is with the club,rinaldi and morrison your best players on the park today,thought we handled the conditions far better and like mentioned we are a bigger side than the wildcats,nice to win at your place for once,but wont miss getting wet there again.Good luck for rest of the season and look forward to seeing a few of you coming over to the willows for the last time in the return fixture!

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Sloppy defence early doors allowed Salford to get a good start and left us with work to do. We were well in it at 6-16 and it was annoying to see Korki give a penalty away while in possession on the first tackle on Salford's line! If we could have put more pressure on at that stage with 5 minutes to go to half time, I think we could have gained some momentum for the second half and maybe gone in only 4 or 6 points behind. We kept Salford scoreless for about 15-20 minutes second half but just couldn't keep hold of the ball due to shocking passes and dumb handling errors. Think we missed Paul King in the forwards, anyone know why he didn't play? We were our own worst enemy today and got beat by a team who in my opinion were playing to save their coach.

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Quote: phil harrison "As i thought alot of people on here who was hyping this game up would slag the team off if the result went the wrong way..credit to GET EM ON SIDE REF,WAKEFIELD NO1 FAN and a few more for sticking behind the team no matter what the result was (which is what we need this year). Very hard conditions today and well done wakefield for putting in 100%. Was very dissapointed with alot wakey fans walking out with 20 minutes to go. Least you could do is clap them off so they have something to fight for... at times id rather 5000 proper wakey fans turn up and support win or lose rather than 6500 turn up to moan about how we play and walk out before the games over. Play the game first then say its easy to play in these conditions and under this amount of preasure... WELL DONE WAKEY HEADS UP'"

Spot on, the one thing your going to get with a young, inexperienced team, is inconsistency and today was one of those days. I think it's clear to all fans and staff at the club that, to get a little more consistency to the team, we need those new signings sooner rather than later, were seriously missing some go forward, which wasn't helped by missing King today and as we all know we desperately need a guy to control the game for us and get us round the field.
I thought all week that people may react negatively, if the lads got beat today and that seemed to happen a little from where I was stood and also from a few of the comments on here, but we can't get too down on the lads and keep things in perspective. Whatever happened, I'm still looking forward to see how this team develops over the season and I'm already looking forward to the next game. I thought the attendance today was pretty good, for a game against Salford, with only a week of planning, in awful cold weather, hopefully if we can beat previous years figures against all the sides this season it will be some achievement.

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Quote: chapster "one thought.................in hindsight was this the right game to do the 10 quid deal??
Salford as opposed to say wire in a fortnight???
give team 2 more weeks to bed in, bit more of a glamour fixture?

not having a go before im burned at the stake.........'"

IF I,m not mistaken, Wire in a fortnight is on sky so hope the lads gell in time for that one, cos after seeing wire take saints apart, it could look really bad to the RFL and their paymasters at Murdochland!!! eusa_whistle.gif

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Well,we all knew this season was going to be tough with the squad we have.
Most of the players have youth on their side and should improve with experience,also i would hope they will gel better, again given time,its early days.
Extremely disappointed JK didnt give Harvey the stand off role today,weve only got the guy for one month ,whats the point of taking him on loan if not to play him?
We still need to work on our defence,in particular was disappointing to see Dean on three occasions lose out in defence when one on one.
Surprised at some suggesting Rinaldi has M.O.M,his option taking and distribution was poor,more so on his return for a stint in the second half..
Johnson,Henderson & Morrison were the pick of players for me today.
Unfortunately its glaringly obvious were we are struggling/or will struggle,lack of punch in the pack and no creativity in the halves.

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Quote: Mutley Cat "
Wow... It took some great force to ground him on the six occasions he actually took a drive in...
In his first spell he took about 2 drives... where Johnson took double figures in the same period.
In the first 10 minutes of the second half he only took 1 drive before coming off, compared to the the likes of Hendo and Gleds taking 5 or 6...
Better get to spec savers Mutley cos your watching a different game fella...

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Quote: MrBigStuff "Better get to spec savers Mutley cos your watching a different game fella...'"


yep i was and me glasses are fine icon_cool.gif

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Quote: TURFEDOUT "Well,we all knew this season was going to be tough with the squad we have.
Most of the players have youth on their side and should improve with experience,also i would hope they will gel better, again given time,its early days.
Extremely disappointed JK didnt give Harvey the stand off role today,weve only got the guy for one month ,whats the point of taking him on loan if not to play him?
We still need to work on our defence,in particular was disappointing to see Dean on three occasions lose out in defence when one on one.
Surprised at some suggesting Rinaldi has M.O.M,his option taking and distribution was poor,more so on his return for a stint in the second half..
Johnson,Henderson & Morrison were the pick of players for me today.
Unfortunately its glaringly obvious were we are struggling/or will struggle,lack of punch in the pack and no creativity in the halves.'"


I wondered about that one, then I thought about the tricky position we are in with our half-backs and hookers!

We have loads of options - Lee / BJ / Rinaldi / Hyde / Harvey / Davey / Wildie / Smith - that's absolutely tons - but do any of us know who the first choices are? Are there really any stand outs in there, or do we have a collection of 'average' players who would be - at best - the back up players anywhere else. And do some of them feel that they are better than that? And do we upset any of them if we then suddenly pick a young player with no-first team experience, but one who just might, might, be brilliant?

I think there are some tough choices ahead for John and Beans - unfortunately that is probably one area where many people think John has a weakness. eusa_think.gif

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This guy, with his rugby union background, has a great kicking game but not your usual RL 6.

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Quote: Mutley Cat "yep i was and me glasses are fine icon_biggrin.gifRUNK: Beer goggles??

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The big positive from the game was Gledhills whole hearted enthusiastic display and if he's up to playing week in week out he should be in the 17 every week.

Mariano was also another big positive and I hope he can continue to build in confidence as the weeks progress.

George looked bright, sharp and offered a threat on a few occasions.

Johnson did what Johnson does, can't fault him.

Morrison, as good as he was last season, looked like a player who suddenly 'gets it' and understands what it means to be a Wakefield favourite and what's expected when the decks stacked against us.

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Quote: TRB "I wondered about that one, then I thought about the tricky position we are in with our half-backs and hookers!

We have loads of options - Lee / BJ / Rinaldi / Hyde / Harvey / Davey / Wildie / Smith - that's absolutely tons - but do any of us know who the first choices are? Are there really any stand outs in there, or do we have a collection of 'average' players who would be - at best - the back up players anywhere else. And do some of them feel that they are better than that? And do we upset any of them if we then suddenly pick a young player with no-first team experience, but one who just might, might, be brilliant?

I think there are some tough choices ahead for John and Beans - unfortunately that is probably one area where many people think John has a weakness. Spot on

You can probably had Moto Tony to that list as well. What we have at wakefield is a massive squad of average at best players. I think we would be better with a smaller squad and a bit more class

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