Its amazing how many 'think they are knowledgable Cas fans' have appeared on here lately ... a word of advice for you all.
You have enough worries, equally as many as ours - maybe even more, for your own Club so concentrate your concerns and vast knowledge on them.

Just remember "he who laughs last laughs loudest and longest"

That's the nub of it and sadly, I don't think it will be managed correctly; maintaining decent crowds during a season at Oakwell will require some very slick marketing - precisely the area of particular weakness at WTW; we're rubbish at it and have been for a long time. I just can't see the current incumbents putting together a strategy that will persuade even regulars to attend Oakwell for a season, let alone attract new interest in the game in S Yorks.

How about enjoying another 3 years in SL & continuing to support the team that we all profess to feel so strongly about...................................................or do we really only have a bunch of fair weather supporters who only want to support the team when we're winning matches, have a good bank balance and have a BoD and coach who doesn't divide opinion????

honestly, not having a go but get real, we go in to sl next time playing away from wakefield we will go bust, simple as that, and your sort of blind faith in the current situation wont help.

ok ill try and make it all disney for you
pooh has gone down to the bridge over the river, but when he gets there he finds his sticks are crap and sink all the time, eyeore and piglet, who have been loyal to pooh after a time get bored and go to the pub, thus pooh has less money to buy more sticks, in the mean time c robin has sold the bridge so when sticks are available theres nowhere to throw them off, except a far away bridge, so piglet and co stay in the pub.
pooh gets all the blame, but at the end of the day no one wants to watch you lose at pooh sticks every single week!

My numbers are a bit of an estimate but lets say rent for last time we were at Oakwell was £14,000 for a one off match. Lets say we can negotiate £10,000 per match rental on a longer term contract = £140,000 per season for 14 home matches. To offset this we offload Belle Vue which rids us of the weekly running costs, rates, power bills etc. Only the club knows what this would save and what the 'net' cost of moving to Oakwell is. The difference has to be found by savings/sponsors new local support.... as TRB says, it has to be made to work or we are stuffed.

What choice have we. No Newmarket for 2012 (maybe 2013) so we need a SL compliant stadium. Belle Vue isn't so if we want to apply for a franchise in 2012 we need Oakwell. If we don't want to go to Oakwell in the short term we don't apply for a franchise and drop into tne Championship - if we do we will go bust, simple as that.

We are caught between a rock and a hard place and I for one would rather apply to stay in SL than give in. If we are to go down then I'd like to go down fighting than wave the white flag.

We have a great deal of problems to resolve, stadium, debts, new investors, on field performances etc. etc. but in my opinion the only way Wakefield Trinity can survive is if we have a SL franchise from 2012. Newmarket is not a guarantee to success but its a start and we can only start with a SL franchise.

If anyone thinks we can drop into the Championship and rebuild and rise from the ashes are in my opionion deluded - the Championship will spell the end of Wakefield Trinity.

Anyway, the decision on our future will be outside all our hands and the Fat Contoller and all his chums at the RFL will decide whether we can play with them or not.

respect your opinions as always
but dont understand how dropping to nl is more dangrous financially than a 3 year pledge to sl at this point?

Because in my opinion what few fans we still have will fall away to under 1,000 and I just think it will be a slow lingering death, poor gates low income, poor team, no investors - viscious circle - until the end. Also where will we play ? We have by all accounts sold Belle Vue (we'll find out more tommorow at the Shareholders Meeting I hope) so we have no home.

I see your point about Oakwell but I genuinely believe that if we are sucessfull with a franchise application based on Oakwell until Newmarket is built for a season the fans will accept this and travel the 9 miles to Barnsley and for all the reasons I have mentioned earlier I think we could make it work. I agree it will not work in the long term but in the short term it can. The Club could put on buses from Wakefield to Oakwell on Match Days and include transport to and from Wakefield in a packaged (subsidised) price.

As I have said we can agree to disagree but the decision on our future will be made by those at Red Hall, not ourselves like it used to be.

So let's see.



Wakefield submit an application based on playing at Oakwell - SL Standard stadium

Cas submit their application based on playing in a stadium at Glasshoughton that hasn't moved on in 3 years.

Why would the RFL believe that Glasshoughton will be ready for 2012? Because Richard Wright said so???


I don't know what will happen but I do know if the RFL look at it honestly (which might be where the problem comes), our application based on Oakwell satisfies the stadium criteria better than Cas's.

nice responce and I hope some chance of a positive conclusion ! Untill there is a 100% answer and definate plan this is a good option in my opinion !

As for it not being working in wakefield and people wont travel up to 10 miles to see their so called beloved team ! ask yourself a question "do yo want us to be in SL or would you like to read in the press that we are no more "? for me , true die hards and supporters will go to any length to keep the flag flying and keep our colours in the right league and well supported !

In short do what you personally can do ! if thats going to Barnsley for a while then so be it and be possitive !!

For a start, where would we play in NL, there's no chance that we could afford to rent any where to play in that division.The only chance we have is going to Oakwell, I cannot see any other alternative but to arrange the next 3 years in Oakwell and hope in the next year we get the nod on Newmarket then a year to build and then move in. I can't see any other way, but to get behind it and try to make it work.

as shifty cat said we would have no home, support would come to an all time low,

at least if we went into administration the RFL could lend us £700 k to get over our plight

you see this is where you are missing the point, you are trying to pursuade the RFL to award you a licence but you dont even have a home, you will be the NOMADS of SL!!

to be honnest i cant believe your comments re "why would the RFL believe Glasshoughton will be ready for 2012" - it is surely simple, they will be privy to information such as contract programmes, completion dates, progress status of the construction, this is something Cas canot lie about and it will be information made available to the RFL. so in short, no it wont matter one bit what dickie says to the RFL, they will be satisfied by what the Main Contractor tell them! the RFL may even be invited to attend site and partake in weekly progress meetings!!

also what relevence does the fact Glasshoughtone, in your opinion, has not moved on in 3 years have anything to do with the licence awards? seriously, nothing. all that matters is the status of it now and i think it is fair to say it is full steam ahead.

maybe if WTWRL had tried harder t develop their own stadium and not go cap in hand to anyoine and everyone pleading for help i.e. york courts, to build a community stadium for you to use then you may be in charge of your own destiny, maybe it was too much hard work for your club!!!