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| Seriuos Question here and before anyone starts i am not gloating etc. This is something that the article raised.
Can Wakefield actually afford the rent at Barnsley? I know one of the concerns of Quins was the fact they were being charged circa £20k per game to play at the stopp. Now i know these are London prices etc but its not just the actual rent. Add to this the fact of the lost revenue from concessions etc and it will invariably cost more to move to Oakwell than the costs saved from not running Belle view.
There of course will be a cost saving involved with not having to pay for the maintenance etc on games day but surely that can not equate to lets say £15k per game - the likley rent price having to be paid per game.
How will this develope the long term viability of the club or at least the 3 years covering the next frachise period - given that this is one of the things the franchise applications will look not simply the stadia you play in.
There is no point having a great stadia if the clubs long term future is crippled by the cost of locating there. And before you start yes i accept the issue over Quins and Crusaders who face the same issue - but the RFL have made it quite clear these are special circumstances - weather we like it or not they don't care
Be interesting to here your thoughts.
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "This comment has to be the most insightful comment ever made while at the same time the most bleeding obvious... you don't need to write any more about this subject. You need to make that your signature right now (perhaps correcting the spelling errors though!).'"
Dont be too hard on him mate, tbf the majority of Cas fans can't even do joined up writing yet, and those what can only produce 5 word sentences of which 3 of those are swear words
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39793_1491679334.jpg "Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall"
"I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg |
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| What a joke like how the fact it doesn't mention all the job opportunities this stadium would bring. Love to see Mr craven get sacked and there is no job for him. Lazy journalism one sided argument. W*nker
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "What a joke like how the fact it doesn't mention all the job opportunities this stadium would bring. Love to see Mr craven get sacked and there is no job for him. Lazy journalism one sided argument. W*nker'"
Not a fan then!
With regards to the article, it's sole purpose was to generate a reaction and it has succeeded. He could've gone further back in history than the last 6 months but chose not to.
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| Quote: wildycat "You will find it holds more pal
I thought 1378 was just short of 1400
The 4000 capacity people are quoting is when rugby were there. Since then the ground has been reduced in size along with the removal of the temporary seating where the dugouts are now. I used the FC United match as an example as the ground was pretty full then.
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| Quote: chissitt "Dont be too hard on him mate, tbf the majority of Cas fans can't even do joined up writing yet, and those what can only produce 5 word sentences of which 3 of those are swear words
I disagree, I can come up with 2 sentences of 5 words without swearing
'Cas get franchise for 2012'
'Wakey do not get one'
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14911_1666773367.jpg [b:3diuzizv][color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]WAKEFIELD[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]TRINITY[/color:3diuzizv] - [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]The[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]PRIDE[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]of[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]Sporting[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]Wakefield[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]
[b:3diuzizv][color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14911.jpg |
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| Quote: Hatfield tiger "Seriuos Question here and before anyone starts i am not gloating etc. This is something that the article raised.
Can Wakefield actually afford the rent at Barnsley? I know one of the concerns of Quins was the fact they were being charged circa £20k per game to play at the stopp. Now i know these are London prices etc but its not just the actual rent. Add to this the fact of the lost revenue from concessions etc and it will invariably cost more to move to Oakwell than the costs saved from not running Belle view.
There of course will be a cost saving involved with not having to pay for the maintenance etc on games day but surely that can not equate to lets say £15k per game - the likley rent price having to be paid per game.
How will this develope the long term viability of the club or at least the 3 years covering the next frachise period - given that this is one of the things the franchise applications will look not simply the stadia you play in.
There is no point having a great stadia if the clubs long term future is crippled by the cost of locating there. And before you start yes i accept the issue over Quins and Crusaders who face the same issue - but the RFL have made it quite clear these are special circumstances - weather we like it or not they don't care
Be interesting to here your thoughts.'"
Not a question most of us can answer as we have no idea what the rent will be. However, what is the alternative?
Sharing at Glasshoughton (if it ever gets built!!) would still cost us rent and probably lose us even more supporters than moving to Oakwell would.
As I said before the journo questions what we would lose out on (eg bar revenue etc) but never thinks to mention that that would be the same at Glasshoughton anyway.
Serious question for you.
Which of these 2 options is likely to alienate the most Wakefield fans
a) Moving to Oakwell, travelling a bit further and paying rent to a Football club but having nice facilities.
b) Sharing a ground in Castleford, paying rent to Castleford and effectively putting them a mile in front of us in terms of future applications (and playing in a ground that does not have state of the art facilities as it actually has no facilities whatsoever because it does not currently exist!!!)
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14911_1666773367.jpg [b:3diuzizv][color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]WAKEFIELD[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]TRINITY[/color:3diuzizv] - [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]The[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]PRIDE[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]of[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]Sporting[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]Wakefield[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]
[b:3diuzizv][color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14911.jpg |
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| Quote: jungle man "I disagree, I can come up with 2 sentences of 5 words without swearing
'Cas get franchise for 2012'
'Wakey do not get one''"
Here's another couple for you
Don't count your chickens yet
You don't have the money
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| I would rather ground share with Dewsbury who fall under kirklees council giving nothing in return to Wakefield council who it has to be said have helped very little throughout this whole planning process.
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| Built in 1993, The Tetley's Stadium is conveniently situated just five minutes drive from both the M1 and M62.
It has two covered stands, one seated and one standing and the ground has an approximate capacity of around 3700 and there is ample parking next to the ground.
As part of the Rams' Community Development Programme, the club hosts matches for a number of other organisations. This ranges from schools, representative and amateur matches to student matches and internationals.
In 2003, the club hosted the final of the British American Football League and the Male and Female Student Rugby League Grand Finals.
The club has excellent conference and hospitality facilities and hosts a large number of wedding receptions and business meetings. There are licensed bars and full catering facilities for meetings from a small group to a full conference.
These facilities coupled with the convenient location, just off the main motorway network, make The Tetley's Stadium the premier local venue for sporting, business and social events.
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| Quote: fat lad @ the back "Built in 1993, The Tetley's Stadium is conveniently situated just five minutes drive from both the M1 and M62.
It has two covered stands, one seated and one standing and the ground has an approximate capacity of around 3700 and there is ample parking next to the ground.
As part of the Rams' Community Development Programme, the club hosts matches for a number of other organisations. This ranges from schools, representative and amateur matches to student matches and internationals.
In 2003, the club hosted the final of the British American Football League and the Male and Female Student Rugby League Grand Finals.
The club has excellent conference and hospitality facilities and hosts a large number of wedding receptions and business meetings. There are licensed bars and full catering facilities for meetings from a small group to a full conference.
These facilities coupled with the convenient location, just off the main motorway network, make The Tetley's Stadium the premier local venue for sporting, business and social events.'"
Watched Dewsbury vs Cas there many years ago, fans were spilling behind the posts as they couldnt cope in the stands. Serves more of a purpose as a car boot location than a rugby ground these days.
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| This is utter garbage. The only reason a ground share at Glasshoughton was mentioned as part of the proposed feasibity studt was that Castleford did not have the funding and Glasshoughton would have been deliverable with the Newmarket funding. This would have got Castleford a franchise and us demoted to NL1 - we may still end up there so no worse a position for us.
Anyway is no longer on the Agenda. Castleford have ALL funding in place so Glasshoughton will happen, they will get a franchise and we will make way for Widnes. Castleford do not need us so its a non starter.
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| Quote: wildycat "Mate I wouldn't watch cas,if we go to the championship, I sure there would be more intresting thing to watch...
WHY ON EARTH NOT........ Does that not make you a "fair weather" supporter, or "Glory Hunter"???
Believe me the standard of Rugby in the Championship is not that bad and you would still have your postcode derby games, in fact you would have more with Batley, Dewsbury and Featherstone all having WF postcodes.
If most of the current fans continued to support Wakefield through the Championship, it would most certainly help your bids to return, however it is all about choice at the end of the day and you will certainly loose a large percentage of your fans, who think just like you do.
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| Blame Ted Richardson. He completely blanked any idea of sharing with us at Castleford and now he must be regretting what he has done.
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