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Quote: BIGAL1 "I do bits when i can to help out but lets just make this clear, i don't and never have worked for the club.

I have and will support "outside events" and various fundraisers but i have never worked for the club and would not if asked.

You would not wish to because some on here would "label you" for making a effort to make things better.

I'm a old fool but one that cares
Well surely there is a bigger issue hidden within your reply here Al?

We all want a strong, vibrant, exciting and positive club - yet it seems unfashionable / un-attractive to been seen to help it. The WiSCA folk all work for nowt - yet they are the next best thing to Leppars, or so it seems to some folk around here.

Is this part of the same mentality that dictates that we must slag off everything that anyone tries to make Wakefield a better place? The Hepworth - an eyesore; the Bull-ring - a vacuum; Pinderfields - over-priced, etc etc...

How can we ever move forward when we don't even appear unified as to where it is we want to go as a club - and even if we were, most wouldn't want to be seen in public admitting that they are happy to do so - because it's not cool!

This isn't a rant at the work that people like you do - it's a genuine question about how to get at least some of that energy working towards the club - it's our club and we would be stronger if we were behind it together!

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Quote: BIGAL1 "Tricky, don't get me wrong and i understand all this but thats a hell of a gamble, yes we could stay as we are and hope for the best and if it goes the wrong way we will lose support, or we could take the option you give and risk it.

I'll get shot for bringing the stadium issue into this but for me JK is a big asset in our next franchise bid and maybe thats worth sticking with it.

Who knows.'"


But isn't he a director of summat or other so he can remain at the club, and then we can get a new coach but I presume it is not that simple.

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Quote: BIGAL1 "Tricky, don't get me wrong and i understand all this but thats a hell of a gamble, yes we could stay as we are and hope for the best and if it goes the wrong way we will lose support, or we could take the option you give and risk it.

I'll get shot for bringing the stadium issue into this but for me JK is a big asset in our next franchise bid and maybe thats worth sticking with it.


Who knows.'"


Hope your right but wouldn't the fact that it is well known in RL circles he wanted to leave us, negate the view of him being a big asset to us to those outside of the club (ie whatever he says is going to sound hollow cos he wanted to go)

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Quote: Disney cat "But isn't he a director of summat or other so he can remain at the club, and then we can get a new coach but I presume it is not that simple.'"


Never thought of it that way tbh, but its never that simple at Wakey
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It was appauling to day what do we do in training we were bunched dis organised pap. I love John Kear but something isn't right our plays have been garbage. It was appauling today.

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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "well ive just had a warning so i dont want to give you the pleasure of banning me,when i am the seeker of truth and justice. its only opinions you know'"


Give over - the seeker of truth and justice! icon_rolleyes.gif

You want vengeance and are very bitter about it and you will have a pop at anyone who doesn't agree with your ideas - as proven by this very thread.

Well done you! icon_confused.gif

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Quote: TRB "Give over - the seeker of truth and justice!
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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "im so sorry if ive hit a sore point,go lay down and relax,i dont like it when you get upset.'"


I just do not get the need to have a pop at other fans when we've all had such a crappy day.

As if anyone could defend the rubbish we witnessed today?

We may differ in the ways we think we can move forward, but we all still want the club to improve and I don't see how those who help the club are the ones holding it back!

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the thred title is pure mopsey, ill give you that!

but the point remains that when people like you me and Al are pigged off then god know what the "normal" part time fans of our club feel like, ill give you and example there has been 3 of us going to every game we could for 25 years home and away and loved every last bit of the struggle, now its 2 and there is a call to ask are we bothering each week even then, NEVER less than 3, NEVER!

and the one who does not come has sponsored games, match balls, etc etc.

dont get me started on bringing new fans in.......try keeping the old ones.

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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "to all the fans so far up the clubs ass,hang your heads in shame. toput up with pathetic perfomances like that is beyond belief. i know go to a wisca do and lick teds backside. then you can bow down to john,you know loyal john who spoke to another club, whos commitment is elsewhere, who signed the players, who deliver garbage. i await who we gonna get or your a disgrace,or even i might get a fans like you arnt needed message from the club,i would like another one of them. some of you need a backbone and stand up for what is right, cause at the moment its clueless cack. say what ya want who gives a damn.

Here here, I think you echoe Jd's sentiments after the game!

Sticking up for yet another "bad day at the office" will not help our cause, watch a pub side if you wanna have that family feel each week.

Kear has to go, teams are figuring our scoot from dummy half then drop the ball routine out!

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Quote: TRB "Well surely there is a bigger issue hidden within your reply here Al?

We all want a strong, vibrant, exciting and positive club - yet it seems unfashionable / un-attractive to been seen to help it. The WiSCA folk all work for nowt - yet they are the next best thing to Leppars, or so it seems to some folk around here.

Easy targets for the snipers

Is this part of the same mentality that dictates that we must slag off everything that anyone tries to make Wakefield a better place? The Hepworth - an eyesore; the Bull-ring - a vacuum; Pinderfields - over-priced, etc etc...

Yes it is

How can we ever move forward when we don't even appear unified as to where it is we want to go as a club - and even if we were, most wouldn't want to be seen in public admitting that they are happy to do so - because it's not cool!

We can't and i don't think that will change

This isn't a rant at the work that people like you do - it's a genuine question about how to get at least some of that energy working towards the club - it's our club and we would be stronger if we were behind it together!'"





I'd quit but that would mean they had won, and that ain't going to happen any time soon

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "It was appauling to day what do we do in training we were bunched dis organised pap. I love John Kear but something isn't right our plays have been garbage. It was appauling today.'"
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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "to all the fans so far up the clubs ass,hang your heads in shame. toput up with pathetic perfomances like that is beyond belief. i know go to a wisca do and lick teds backside. then you can bow down to john,you know loyal john who spoke to another club, whos commitment is elsewhere, who signed the players, who deliver garbage. i await who we gonna get or your a disgrace,or even i might get a fans like you arnt needed message from the club,i would like another one of them. some of you need a backbone and stand up for what is right, cause at the moment its clueless cack. say what ya want who gives a damn. icon_beat.gif

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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "well ive just had a warning so i dont want to give you the pleasure of banning me,when i am the seeker of truth and justice. its only opinions you know'"


Hilarious, the seeker of truth and justice,.....how seriously do you take yourself......i suppose you have to because no one else does?

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The fans are saying it's garbage the captain is saying it's garbage and Kear is saying we haven't a hope in hell. Kear needs to come clean on as to why we look completely disinterested or someone else can.

This us and them routine with club peers against the disillusioned fans is in no way helping at all.

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