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Quote: Jason "I rate Bibb. Think he has been very good for us this season. Those people saying he looks lazy need to remember he is a big lads and guys of his size do not throw themselves about like diminutive half backs. He did look a little pedestrian yesterday I agree.

To those "bigging" up big Frank. From what I saw from his run out in the reserves he is no world beater at this moment in time so don't get too exited.

FWIW on Murphy not defusing a bomb (shock horror while under pressure) are you suggesting he should be dropped for Petterson. Please cast your mind back to the first 18 minutes at the Keepmoat. I like Murphy and think he is doing a fantastic job.

Please remember folks we are not Saints we are Wakefield. Just cast your minds back a few years. We are unrecognisable as a team from the. But please don't start calling for heads when the wheels drop off as we have no god given right to catch every 50 50 ball and win every match.'"


Whilst in no way suggesting that Murphy is dropped for Petersen I do think that Petersen is another one of those players who is given a bit of a hard time by our fans. He injured his shoulder in the first couple of minutes in that game and that certainly contributed to his lack of competitiveness in going for those bombs.
I think given a good run of games to prove himself Petersen would be a great asset to us, although he may have to wait quite a while to get his chance.

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I think that Pitts and Murphy are putting in the level of performance required to compete for a starting place in the team regardless of injury/suspension. I think bibb needs to show much more and to be honest I dont think it will help his progression if everyone focuses on his age rather than the fact that he is a full time professional at a super league club. He is not giving Kear any headache regarding team selection when others are fit Bibb will be dropped. If he does not take his chance now then the next time somewhere down the line (maybe in a years time) will be make or break for his career. And whoever said that wilkes took his time hitting form when he came to the club - you have got to be kidding me. Wilkes is dynamic Bibb is plodding.

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Let's be fair, to all the lads (even hendo!!!) we have had a magnificent start to the season, better than a lot of us "experts" predicted!! We've played some good stuff and overall they've given us a lot to be proud of, in what have been very difficult times.
The likes of Bibb pitts murphy etc are the long term future of our club and need support, they will make mistakes all through there careers, so let's get behind them now, enough young players have left this club and gone on to bigger and better things, some for the money and dome because they were disalusioned for one reason or another!! We as supporters play our part in that.
Experienced players make mistakes so give the young boys a break!!

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Not wanting to be harsh or personal but it is a simple synopsis.
Professional sportsmen take the money - take the glory - take the critiscism and make the most of all of it.

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Quote: Fordy "Whilst in no way suggesting that Murphy is dropped for Petersen I do think that Petersen is another one of those players who is given a bit of a hard time by our fans. He injured his shoulder in the first couple of minutes in that game and that certainly contributed to his lack of competitiveness in going for those bombs.
I think given a good run of games to prove himself Petersen would be a great asset to us, although he may have to wait quite a while to get his chance.'"


Petersen is going to be a huge success in my opinion. What I saw I liked - he wants the ball and will come in and take the pressure off the forwards by making numerous good carries just lkike Blanch.

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Some interesting Stats (via superleague.co.uk) for Kyle Bibb and Oli Wilkes prior to Monday;

Bibb

Appearances 8
Tries 0
Meters 486
Carries 70
Tackles 112
Offloads 7
Attacking Kicks 1
Tackle Busts 10
Marker tackles 18
Clean Breaks 1
Kicks in general play 1
Missed tackles 9
Errors 2
Penalties 2

Wilkes
8 Appearances
1 Tries
734 Meters
104 Carries
166 Tackles
2 Offloads
1 Attacking Kicks
4 Tackle Busts
19 Marker tackles
0 Clean Breaks
1 Kicks in general play
28 Missed tackles
3 Errors
5 Penalties


Not alot of difference there as far as i can see, the main difference being metre's made although that is due to more carries.

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Quote: Trinity Till Death "Some interesting Stats (via superleague.co.uk) for Kyle Bibb and Oli Wilkes prior to Monday;

Bibb

Appearances 8
Tries 0
Meters 486
Carries 70
Tackles 112
Offloads 7
Attacking Kicks 1
Tackle Busts 10
Marker tackles 18
Clean Breaks 1
Kicks in general play 1
Missed tackles 9
Errors 2
Penalties 2

Wilkes
8 Appearances
1 Tries
734 Meters
104 Carries
166 Tackles
2 Offloads
1 Attacking Kicks
4 Tackle Busts
19 Marker tackles
0 Clean Breaks
1 Kicks in general play
28 Missed tackles
3 Errors
5 Penalties


Not alot of difference there as far as i can see, the main difference being metre's made although that is due to more carries.'"


Massive differance in the missed tackles......in Bibbs favour! (in Wikes defence l guess he has played more minutes!)

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Quote: St. Chunter "be surprised if murphy is the one kear inferred to about the mistake, he was isolated and had 2 including menzies bearing down on him and he's a big bugger. if owt i wondered where atkins was to give him some protection. not murphy's fault imo'"


Exactly, If anybody should shoulder the blame for both of Menzies tries' it should be Atkins. The 1st one he came in and took the wrong man and left Murphy with a 2 on 1 leaving him with no chance. And the second try Murphy did not have a Wakey player within 5 yard of him. Everybody in the ground knew what Jeffries was going to do Murphy included who was shouting for help, without sounding too critical if Atkins was where he should have been then perhaps Menzies might not have scored at all and got a mention because imo he did nothing else worthy of note considering he is supposedly their stand out player.

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Lies, dammned lies and statistics.

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Quote: SimonBarrett "Massive differance in the missed tackles......in Bibbs favour! (in Wikes defence l guess he has played more minutes!)'"


You expect Wilkes to have slightly more errors, missed tackles, more carries and more metre's due to how long he plays.

I was just using those stats to show that Bibb a relative inexperienced prop is doing a great job and that two errors albeit in a bad part of the field do not take away from how he's played this season.

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Quote: worksopwildcat "Lies, dammned lies and statistics.'"


Well of course if they don't suit, in my experience they are far more accurate than the opinions of fans myself included.

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Quote: vastman "Well of course if they don't suit, in my experience they are far more accurate than the opinions of fans myself included.'"


No need to employ scouts anymore then!
Just look at the stats and bingo!

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Stats prove/disprove points already made not necessarily make them.

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Quote: worksopwildcat "No need to employ scouts anymore then!
Just look at the stats and bingo!'"


Wait until he sees this icon_wink.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Kyle is a young lad with bucket loads of potential, give him TIME, anyone who knows anything about RL knows props mature a hell of a lot later than backs! Graham and Burgess are by no means the norm!

We could very well have diamond in the rough, just might take some polishing and some time! And no-one seems better qualified than JK! Best in the business for player development by a country mile!

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