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Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "Still no big Frank though.
Lets just hope that Brad and Danny have learnt to play together since last season,as when they have played seperatly they have been great so far but last season when playing together they seemed to play against each other.

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I agree with Vastman about Brough. He is a very hotheaded player and lets his emotions rule his head. When he first came to Wakefield he was focused on playing Rugby and got on with the game.

Against Leigh for instance he was more concerned with trying to get a cheap shot or a big hit on one of their players who had roughed him up the wrong way.

He needs to focus on his rugby and do the basics well and let everything else take care of itself

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Quote: RebelRebel "Brough and Rooney were our most effective half back pairing last season. Drew and Martin have been the most effective pairing this season so far. There's only room for one dictator.

Don't see where you get the bit about Brough not having the cool head to beat Cas, though. He took them apart in Wales last year.'"


Yes he did but Cas were beaten by the team TBF. Don't know if you saw the last Cas game at BV (you being an ex-pat) but Brough got totally wound up and was substituted towards the end. He let them get to him and it was really obvious.

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Quote: vastman "Yes he did but Cas were beaten by the team TBF. Don't know if you saw the last Cas game at BV (you being an ex-pat) but Brough got totally wound up and was substituted towards the end. He let them get to him and it was really obvious.'"


No I didn't, so I'll take your word for it. Whatever the arguments about Brough, though, it's really about which combination works best, and I think we agree that Drew and Martin have shown so far that they are first in the pecking order for the time being.

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Quote: RebelRebel "No I didn't, so I'll take your word for it. Whatever the arguments about Brough, though, it's really about which combination works best, and I think we agree that Drew and Martin have shown so far that they are first in the pecking order for the time being.'"


Correct, it's not about Brough TBF, he is a good player, it's that for me Martin and Drew just do more for us on this seasons form.

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Quote: Dead Man Walking "How come you say that we are not a very good side then ?'"


Because for me there are only two very good sides in the comp (as is usually the case) Leeds and Saints and neither of us are it. The good thing is that there are a lot of good sides who on there day can trouble them, we may both be that.

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nice 2 see every 1 takin there time at gettin on at danny hes been back 4 for what 2 or 3 games and all of a sudden hes bab get a grip you lot danny is a big game player and will come up trumps 2mora the player that has been playin poorly apart from grix who himself is just coming back from injury so needs sometime also is gleeson who everybody is puttin in there team 2 play the amount of trys we have conceded 2 him rushin out of the line this year is scandalous not getting him down but needs to keep his calm and not rush out of the line so much

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Quote: andy huddy "nice 2 see every 1 takin there time at gettin on at danny hes been back 4 for what 2 or 3 games and all of a sudden hes bab get a grip you lot danny is a big game player and will come up trumps 2mora the player that has been playin poorly apart from grix who himself is just coming back from injury so needs sometime also is gleeson who everybody is puttin in there team 2 play the amount of trys we have conceded 2 him rushin out of the line this year is scandalous not getting him down but needs to keep his calm and not rush out of the line so much'"


....and breathe...

btw i agree and think DB deserves his place in the team at the moment and i don't like people harping back to him/drew not playing well.

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Quote: andy huddy "nice 2 see every 1 takin there time at gettin on at danny hes been back 4 for what 2 or 3 games and all of a sudden hes bab get a grip you lot danny is a big game player and will come up trumps 2mora the player that has been playin poorly apart from grix who himself is just coming back from injury so needs sometime also is gleeson who everybody is puttin in there team 2 play the amount of trys we have conceded 2 him rushin out of the line this year is scandalous not getting him down but needs to keep his calm and not rush out of the line so much'"


Take a breath luv and calm down. Can't really understand your rambling post but no one has called Brough bab, don't be so daft. It's not about individual it's about the best team we can put out. Give your head a shake.

Still if you want to make it about personalities, then judging by Broughs performance in the CCup semi how do you come to the conclusion he is a "big game" player. I saw no evidence.

Thanks anyway Danny icon_lol.gif

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Quote: pocket 4's "....and breathe...

btw i agree and think DB deserves his place in the team at the moment and i don't like people harping back to him/drew not playing well.'"


So Martin, Obst, Latu, Brough, Grix and Drew are back - who goes someone will miss out?

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Quote: andy huddy "nice 2 see every 1 takin there time at gettin on at danny hes been back 4 for what 2 or 3 games and all of a sudden hes bab get a grip you lot danny is a big game player and will come up trumps 2mora the player that has been playin poorly apart from grix who himself is just coming back from injury so needs sometime also is gleeson who everybody is puttin in there team 2 play the amount of trys we have conceded 2 him rushin out of the line this year is scandalous not getting him down but needs to keep his calm and not rush out of the line so much'"


I never said Brough was bab................just an opinion on what side/squad to go with for Friday. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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1. Matt Blaymire
2. Damien Blanch
19. Sean Gleeson
4. Ryan Atkins
27. Aaron Murphy
7. Danny Brough
14. Sam Obst
12. Oliver Wilkes
9. Brad Drew
10. Danny Sculthorpe
11. Steve Snitch
24. Dale Ferguson
8. Jason Demetriou

17. Kevin Henderson
20. Tevita Leo-Latu
29. Jay Pitts
3. Tony Martin

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13. Scott Grix
28. Kyle Bibb

i think Tony Martin could come in and rotate with JD, whilst provide cover for the backline

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Quote: pocket 4's "1. Matt Blaymire
2. Damien Blanch
19. Sean Gleeson
4. Ryan Atkins
27. Aaron Murphy
7. Danny Brough
14. Sam Obst
12. Oliver Wilkes
9. Brad Drew
10. Danny Sculthorpe
11. Steve Snitch
24. Dale Ferguson
8. Jason Demetriou

17. Kevin Henderson
20. Tevita Leo-Latu
29. Jay Pitts
3. Tony Martin

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13. Scott Grix
28. Kyle Bibb

i think Tony Martin could come in and rotate with JD, whilst provide cover for the backline'"


That team makes no sense at all IMHO - a centre on the bench who is actually the best S/O at the club, a hooker at 7, a 7 at 6, 3 hookers in the team and only 2 light players on the bench. In the modern game most team run with 3 forward and a hooker, why would you need to have extra cover for the backs if JD is available? Thank the lord JK is coach. icon_lol.gif

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lol ok thanks for that - i bow down.

TM is great but to say he is the best S/O at the club is taking things a bit far after he played about 4 games there.

Although you were probably one of those that said Grix was the best S/O at the club after the World Cup etc.

the difference between 6 and 7 is pretty marginal - we don't really have a "proper 6" at the club imo (maybe Rooney). Sam was a number 7 well before he was a number 9 and played there this season when BD was at 9.

anyway i guess it highlights that we have too many playmakers available and not enough forwards - but you already knew that.

that was a quick cut n paste job, maybe put Bibb in for Latu/Martin depending upon their respective levels of fitness.

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Quote: pocket 4's "lol ok thanks for that - i bow down.

TM is great but to say he is the best S/O at the club is taking things a bit far after he played about 4 games there.

Although you were probably one of those that said Grix was the best S/O at the club after the World Cup etc.

the difference between 6 and 7 is pretty marginal - we don't really have a "proper 6" at the club imo (maybe Rooney). Sam was a number 7 well before he was a number 9 and played there this season when BD was at 9.

anyway i guess it highlights that we have too many playmakers available and not enough forwards - but you already knew that.

that was a quick cut n paste job, maybe put Bibb in for Latu/Martin depending upon their respective levels of fitness.'"


True Martin is just an opinion.

Grix, I don't know about him I haven't decided what he is yet let alone whether he is the best at it.

Sam as a 7 is too similar to Brough except he hasn't got the kicking game. For me both Obst and Brough are 7 or 9, nether are a 6. I agree Rooney is but he isn't available but Martin is. Again it's about balance not ability.

Ya see your all at sixes and sevens on this one icon_wink.gif

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