After you scored both times I said to my dad that i expected you to kick us to death in that corner but apart from the spiral bomb that brough put up and we managed to deal with you didnt seem to bother

Fair do's, I stand corrected (Said the man in the orthapedic shoe) about the selection,

In all honesty the better team won. We were lucky to be in the game at half time and scored some fortunate tries.

Wigan slowed us down and we lacked ideas. Our attack suffered due to good Wigan defence. Whether that is the referee's fault is another matter but will should still be able to alter how we attack and adapt to the conditions.

Wigan had too much pace for us and we missed far too many tackles and made silly errors in their 20m.

The effort was there just not the application. Can't win them all.

Could say the same about your hero too, was very lazy today and at one point when we had creates an overlap towards the end of the game hewas 10-15 yards behind play scratching his ar5e! Hopefully this was just a blip, poor team performance, best team won and ref had nothing whatsoever to do with the outcome of the game. Payback time in two weeks hopefully. I'd stand the league loss if I was guaranteed a win in the cup (obviously we're not lol). Fair play to Wigan,best team on the day but, got to say that was probably our worst performance of the season. Gleeson might learn to keep his mouth shut now, spouting off in the papers how he wanted to show Wigan what they were missing, if that sort o performance carries on I'm sure they'll be quite happy they shipped him out! If you talk the talk you've got to walk the walk, unfortunately today Gleese hardly mustered a crawl nevermind a walk!

You could yeah he had an off game today, made 1 good break though which got fooked up. Was limping early on in game but shook it off.

And it was down Blanch side where Wigan cained us. Like I said down that side we are normaly solid.

I think our main problem was our decision making today, whenever we made a choice it seemed to be the wrong one. Kicking early in the count, offloading in heavy traffic, last tackle options, defenders commiting to the wrong man etc, I think as has previously been said the last few weeks has cought up with us. Both sides looked tired, but Wigan's decision making and execution was better than ours and they exploited us and deservadly won the game.

Lets hope we can get a couple of troops back shortly and give some of the lads a well earned break - you just wonder how long it will take to get over the last few weeks when you consider that we had 8 days rest since Hull.

Fair comment, think all the three quarters were poor today, Brough and Martin had a couple of good stints without being spectacular. Forwards went OK, couple of poor plays from Scully but he was trying, thought Snitch and Hendo were the standout performers, never stopped in both attack and defense.

but wasn't he injured in the reserve game which would indicate he had been dropped?

Thats what i thought but someone said he took knock on it last week but was made worse in academy.... Which was bit strange!

What a load of cr@p! Salary cap hasn't affected Saints? Another Wigan excuse for their dissapointing results and poor signings. Blame the coach and the board if anyone.

Wigan were probably better on the day.

Shocking refereeing though. Im normally laugh at 'forward pass' cries but there second try came from a pass that could have been in American football!

A well dodgy knock on against us when they had just knocked on and should have been called as no advantage.

Plenty of others too

i must admit i watched the highlights and couldnt believe how bad the pass for the 2nd try was and a couple more looked decidedly dodgy but wigan were by far the best team on the day

I am not talking about Wigan specifically i am talking about the quality of the product across the board. Being more competative does not mean it is a better quality. The scores in some of the games are a joke verging on basketball.

I would also like to say i think the cap is a good thing just not in its current form, but lets not worry about the future of our sport and enjoy the fact average to poor teams can do well in SL but yet we continue to get mullered at International level.