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| Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "This is Trin all over.
Players that are under performing don't seem to get dropped, yet others are excluded/ dropped for the most trivial things.
My first ever post on here was to defend Mathers but over the last 12 months his performance have declined.
Not really form you would expect from a season Super League player with his CV.
Add to that he is VC and he should be leading by example and if his form is off, drop him and send a message to the rest of the squad, that no one is safe.'"
I know Mathers has his faults but the reason he his seemingly making so many defensive mistakes is because others in front of him have failed!
Our defence, generally, against Bradford for example, was pathetic.
It hasn't taken Sammut long to weigh the situation up.
We have the players to survive and do well if we get things right.
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| Quote: sandaltrinityfan "I know Mathers has his faults but the reason he his seemingly making so many defensive mistakes is because others in front of him have failed!
Our defence, generally, against Bradford for example, was pathetic.
It hasn't taken Sammut long to weigh the situation up.
We have the players to survive and do well if we get things right.'"
I was also critical of the players in front of him when I defended him but he also seems to have lost his attacking edge as well.
Sammut has sussed it out early doors, that we need to put bodies on the line defensively.
Fullback is a lonely job but when you have been doing it as long as Mathers, you expect better.
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| Sandaltrin - have a look at the highlights form the Wigan game and take note of Mathers and that's only the highlights.
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| It was only two games ago people were praising Mathers for a one one tackle, I think it was Hock.
Yet now he's been rubbish for ages.
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| Quote: sandaltrinityfan "I know Mathers has his faults but the reason he his seemingly making so many defensive mistakes is because others in front of him have failed!
Our defence, generally, against Bradford for example, was pathetic.
It hasn't taken Sammut long to weigh the situation up.
We have the players to survive and do well if we get things right.'"
Unfortunately it is the fullbacks job to organise the defense from the back also, so whilst he may not be in the line he is still a key contributor to it's effectiveness and at times, and he has to take his share of the blame for the lack of organisation in the defensive line.
Shocking player. I thought he would be useful to you because of his leadership as he seems well liked but the bloke has become a liability and someone else needs to be given a shot.
If it is a straight choice of who to drop for an incoming fullback/wing Mathers needs to go over Lynn every time for me. Lynn is raw but at least he adds something to the team.
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| Quote: jonh "Unfortunately it is the fullbacks job to organise the defense from the back also, so whilst he may not be in the line he is still a key contributor to it's effectiveness and at times, and he has to take his share of the blame for the lack of organisation in the defensive line.
Shocking player. I thought he would be useful to you because of his leadership as he seems well liked but the bloke has become a liability and someone else needs to be given a shot.
If it is a straight choice of who to drop for an incoming fullback/wing Mathers needs to go over Lynn every time for me. Lynn is raw but at least he adds something to the team.'"
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Mathers should survive in the team and be an automatic choice. I acknowledged he has faults, so try someone else at full back but don't for one minute think you've cracked it defensively because that would be a huge mistake.
In my opinion most of the team need a kick up the proverbial when it comes to defence.
I know I live in the past but an old fashioned captain like Derek Turner would have sorted it on the pitch!
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| What would we think to playing Mathers further up the field? Maybe packing down at 13?
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| Quote: charlie "What would we think to playing Mathers further up the field? Maybe packing down at 13?'"
I don't like it. Skills wise it's not a bad move but you are replacing best tackler with one of worst.
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| Hasnt got the bottle to play in the forwards...
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| Has BJB even been confirmed yet?
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| I was just throwing it out there, he would be more involved in 2/3 man tackles rather than 1-on-1 at full back.
I do like DW at loose and I don't suppose Richie could play in the 2nd row. I think i'm just trying to fit him in the side for his leadership than anything else.
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| Quote: bren2k "Has BJB even been confirmed yet?'"
Just sorting out the money.
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| Quote: charlie "I was just throwing it out there, he would be more involved in 2/3 man tackles rather than 1-on-1 at full back.
I do like DW at loose and I don't suppose Richie could play in the 2nd row. I think i'm just trying to fit him in the side for his leadership than anything else.'"
Do Newcastle Falcons need a fullback??????
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| Quote: charlie "What would we think to playing Mathers further up the field? Maybe packing down at 13?'"
I would think, without hesitation, that you are totally and utterly out of your mind
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| Quote: charlie "What would we think to playing Mathers further up the field? Maybe packing down at 13?'"
Play him at prop instead of Walshaw. He's big enough at 6ft and 15 stone.
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