You are totally missing the point. Yes it's only ten miles but it was the final straw for many people in a period in our history which the club may never recover from. I did go last night but I wasn't surprised that many didn't. The ones that did really got behind their team, as did yours.

The club fought long and hard for a shiny new stadium, the end result being very different to the original ambitious plans. Sale then waltz in as co-tenants, no surprise, but compare the situation to what we had at the Willows. A proud venue that was ours and no one else's.

Salford RLFC has many failings, as does your own club. The job Richard Agar has done at Wakefield is to be admired and your support last night was fantastic. I hope you manage to sustain your short term success.

i think an awful lot of wakey fans have alot of symphathy for the way salford were treated over this, i certainly do and do understand your reasonings for staying away tho it was ashame , good luck next season tho i and i look forward to comming to your stadium next year

No, I get all that, but it was Sky that mucked this up for you, not Sale.

Personally, I am "miffed" that Salford's licence is claimed to be essential to the game because of it's Manchester/BBC connection.

It clearly isn't and it's becoming hard to justify the Reds SL place, on any criteria, above clubs such as Fev & Fax.

Having said that, we were on our downers not too long back (not as bad as you, mind), yet Glover has turned us around very quickly, so there is hope. I would suggest the clock is ticking though, as Fev, for example, get their ground in order.

As an outsider looking in, I would say the Wilkinson/Simms regime is holding you back now.

Wilkinson has done a fantastic job keeping the club stable, especially when it was not included in super league one and two relegations. He is looking for new blood and investment and would willingly step aside if this was forthcoming. Simms should be axed years ago and as much as a I respect Mr Wilkinson his perseverance with Simms has been a huge error.

In terms of super league licenses, there is too much said on paper rather than put into practice. Our franchise is very much on potential but most Salford fans will accept we cannot use this card for ever. Was impressed with the Leigh Sports Village and believe they would be an asset to super league if given the opportunity.

Agree, not sure why we feel the need to look down at other clubs or whatever you want to call it, seems very childish especially when we've had it done to us for years, bit of class needed.

www.loverugbyleague.com/news_101 ... ealed.html Things seem worse than just Sky sports and SL messing a game around.

www.loverugbyleague.com/news_101 ... ealed.html Things seem worse than just Sky sports and SL messing a game around.

Don't bother, it's a soulless, windswept, graveyard of a place. Zero atmosphere and very few fans. I fear Wakey are making the same mistake moving out of town away from their traditional home near the city centre. Unfortunately the game nowadays is mostly about money with scant regard given to the speccys. I've been to Barton twice this year and honestly can't find a good thing to say about it. It's the worst of the "new" grounds by a million miles.

Just read all these posts regarding the predicament of Salford and the phrase what goes around comes around springs to mind.
Salford have for many years given my own club Swinton grief about loosing our Station Rd ground and indeed being in a worse predicament than them having been nomadic for years.
It is quite sad that they lost the Willows as for me it was a real rugby ground however they wanted the shiney new stadium and all it brought, problem for them was they could never afford to build it and became reliant on the council and Peel holdings meaning they lost all control and are just tennants paying for the use of the facility.That then meant they lost certain revenue streams and of course the fact it was built outside of the real Salford heartland (Barton is in Irlam which was dragged along with the likes of Eccles , Swinton and other towns to form this ill conceived City of Salford)It is surrounded by motorway which is well documented for snarling up at the slightest wiff of an accident and then they choose Fridays as a playing night what did they expect.

The Stadium company want a return on their investment and so again it was inevitable a third party would be invited to also use the ground in this instance Sale, this actually assisted them financially as it meant a rent cut.Salford are happy to take a cut of SL money, a direct benefit of Sky so really when they were told they was going to be on TV how can they whinge.

The same Club has been bailed out with loans from the council which they now have to repay, non of which were afforded to Swinton yet plenty of council tax is collected from rate payers in the Town of Swinton & Pendlebury.

So to see them struggling like they are and desperate for a new backers is music to my ears.

There is an answer for them of course....drop out of super league and let either Leigh, Featherstone or Halifax take their place, all three are better run clubs than Salford.

Thanks for the guidance. As I'm sure you'll know our hands have been forced in this. We have to be in a modern facility to meet SL criteria. Previous attempts to be in a more central location e.g. Thornes Park failed. Rock and a hard place I know. With so much planning going into Newmarket I'm sure that we've learnt from the errors/problems of other stadia. If transport links (public and private) are good then the effect should be minimal or maybe even positive.

If Belle Vue could have been brought up to standard at reasonable cost and without planning restrictions I think most Wakefield fans would favour that.

It depends what kind of spectator you are as to whether there will be any positive aspects to the move out to Newmarket. If you like a pint around the ground before the game then be prepared to stand ten deep at the bar at the industrial sites' mandatory Harvester selling overpriced fizzy lager. If you don't have a car and normally take the train then be prepared to fanny about and waste even more time due to the new ground being miles from the nearest station. If you like to park for free around the ground then think again, double yellows and clampings galore for motorists. It's not my club and Wakey are stuck between a rock and a hard place but the only positive I can see is you will be ticking a big box when it comes to licensing.

Sorry to spoil the party but that post suggests you know very little about the plans for the new stadium or the area it's going to be built; there will be plenty of non-Harvester boozers in walking vicinity for example, and transport links have already been established in terms of shuttle buses from the city centre on match days.

It might surprise lots of people to learn that the people behind this plan have actually done a bit of work on it.

Catalans play off game at home 3 years since,official something like 2,500 , actual attendance was 1 ,600 if I remember.

The Catalans playoff game at home had an official attendance of 4,007.
Which looked about right IMO.

Dont know where you get 2,500 from??

Me neither. Was about 4k but still shameful