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| Quote Pinkerton="Pinkerton"I don't see how you could say your community scheme is better than ours. We are developing and promoting the game from Hove to Northampton, whereas yours is solely based in and around the Wakefield area. There are also more schools in London playing RL, than in 'hotbeds' such as Leeds and Hull (that line is taken from RLW article). We also have all the above that you've mentioned as to why your community is better than ours.'"
Yes but if you look at the quality of clubs that the Wakefield and Castleford area have the quality easily outweighs the quantity. It's ok saying there are more clubs playing in London area but are nowhere near the level of our clubs. If you look at other teams and did your research you can see that each club contains someone who has either played at Cas or wakey or has come from the area.
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| Cleckheaton used to have a RL team, I played against them and John Bentley played for Cleckheaton RU.
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| Quote supercat="supercat"Yes but if you look at the quality of clubs that the Wakefield and Castleford area have the quality easily outweighs the quantity. It's ok saying there are more clubs playing in London area but are nowhere near the level of our clubs. If you look at other teams and did your research you can see that each club contains someone who has either played at Cas or wakey or has come from the area.'"
I'm not sure you can compare talent coming through junior clubs who have been around for decades to those who are only just starting to see the fruit blossoming - Clubb, McCarthy-Scarsbrook to name two England internationals.
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| Quote t-r-i-n-i-t-y="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"I'm not sure you can compare talent coming through junior clubs who have been around for decades to those who are only just starting to see the fruit blossoming - Clubb, McCarthy-Scarsbrook to name two England internationals.'"
... and here it is.
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| Quote t-r-i-n-i-t-y="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"I'm not sure you can compare talent coming through junior clubs who have been around for decades to those who are only just starting to see the fruit blossoming - Clubb, McCarthy-Scarsbrook to name two England internationals.'"
Then look at rest of the internationals not just England (as superleague is not just about English rugby) and i am sure you will see that there are a lot of players that have passed through the ranks in some form. Simple fact providing we stay in superleague we have a lot more to offer than QUINS AND CRUSADERS.
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| Quote supercat="supercat"Then look at rest of the internationals not just England (as superleague is not just about English rugby) and i am sure you will see that there are a lot of players that have passed through the ranks in some form. Simple fact providing we stay in superleague we have a lot more to offer than QUINS AND CRUSADERS.'"
I think you've missed my point. I'm not saying the clubs in our area don't produce internationals in much higher numbers than the clubs around London, just that our clubs have had a lot longer to get the systems/coaches/talent pool to be able to do that.
But, let's be honest, I may as well not bother because some smart Alec will have a go at me for posting this. maybe I should post crap about kids being born or hilarious banter with Cas fans about having six fingers rather than try to discuss issues on this board.
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| Quote t-r-i-n-i-t-y="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"I think you've missed my point. I'm not saying the clubs in our area don't produce internationals in much higher numbers than the clubs around London, just that our clubs have had a lot longer to get the systems/coaches/talent pool to be able to do'"
There has been a professional RL club in London since the 1930's - every iteration has failed.
Isn't it simply that London is not and never will be a RL area?
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| Quins have been around in some form or other for a fair few years now, pre Sl I believe.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"There has been a professional RL club in London since the 1930's - every iteration has failed.'"
Acton & Willesden and Stretham & Mitcham lasted a season in 1935. London Highfield did the same in '33. Professional rugby, continually has only been played in the capital since 1981.
If you put an amateur club isomewhere with no links to the 'heartlands' say like Norwich, how long would you think it would take for them to develop the knowledge, skills and player pool to be able to produce a potential international rugby league player.
Quote bren2k="bren2k"Isn't it simply that London is not and never will be a RL area?'"
You obviously think not, so there's no discussion is there. Who knows what will happen in the future? 25 years ago you'd have thought it was dead in Huddersfield and we weren't too healthy then either. Things change.
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| Quote t-r-i-n-i-t-y="t-r-i-n-i-t-y" you'd have thought it was dead in Huddersfield .'"
It's only alive now thanks to regular transfusions from Uncle Kens pocket
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| It would seem the only way to make it fit anywhere other than a traditional rugby league area is to throw lots of money at it.
If someone (and that shouldn't be the RFL by the way) is happy to throw their own money at it instead of paying supporters I suppose that's their prerogative.
However a viable club should not be made to suffer, for what is in my opinion a total sham.
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| Quote t-r-i-n-i-t-y="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Acton & Willesden and Stretham & Mitcham lasted a season in 1935. London Highfield did the same in '33. Professional rugby, continually has only been played in the capital since 1981.
=#FF0000If you put an amateur club isomewhere with no links to the 'heartlands' say like Norwich, how long would you think it would take for them to develop the knowledge, skills and player pool to be able to produce a potential international rugby league player.
You obviously think not, so there's no discussion is there. Who knows what will happen in the future? 25 years ago you'd have thought it was dead in Huddersfield and we weren't too healthy then either. Things change.'"
if you put an elephant in somewhere like the sea, how long until it will develop the skill to swim? It won't it will die, as without frequent cash injections would London and crusaders.
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