IMHO Kyle is too small and gets run over by bigger people too easily. Not seen enough of walshaw but a case could be made for Annakin. Think they suffered from no development when kear was head coach. I'm sure they will get opportunities when injuries arrive

Kyle is atleast 6ft 2 tall and he played games not knowing where hed be played - you need to prepare your body in different ways for different positions.
Annakin would be better than Washbrook at Loose Forward however does the 'little things' correctly.
Tautai would get the call before D Smith and Walshaw in my opinion, if he can cut out the errors which he forces upon himself. He is a very strong guy and has pace behind him he just trys too much and makes an error.

Tautai is a proven NRL standard player who like a trout and Annakin need to be told what position they will be expected to play. Tautai should be looking at starting second row with Kirmond with Ali coming off the bench. Annakin should be pushing for 13 with Ryan and Washbrook. Trout should be pushing for second row. I bet Trout in reality is about 5 foot 11 and 15 stone which isn't a problem for a mobile second row.

Trout is definitely 6ft 2 - there is no doubt about that.

And Rob burrow is 5'7

I think that's generous however he's certainly a 6 footer. Strange how some players look bigger than they are and others smaller. Paul Johnson was the same, he was referred to as a midget on here.

TBH if they play big then they are big.

I give you the legend that is Nigel Bell - 5'8" max and about 15 stone in later years and too small to be a prop - step forward Nigel Bell easily one of the best props we have had at Trinity in the last 30 years.

Size helps butit's not the be all and end all, if Trouts learn technique and has the heart he will be whatever he wants to be.

Heart is a massive part of the game. If your not up for the fight you'll get found out.

This.

I think Kyle has the potential and ability to develop into a very good 2nd rower.......At academy level he had a size advantage and was a very powerful running prop.....he no longer had the size and power advantage he did then but i saw quite a few signs last backend when called upon to suggest he's athletic enough and is learning to run the right lines to make him an effective second rower.....still bags of potential for me....as have Annekin and Walshaw...

I agree with your points but he is 6ft 2 trust me, as you said some players look smaller and bigger.

It's all relative isn't it. If he's 6'2 but surrounded by people 6'4 he will look smaller. Anyway was just my opinion. What's everyone else's starting pack then?

Trout scored one decent try against Castleford in our last game and people seem to have selective memory all of a sudden. Kyle for me looks very lightweight for a second rower and although his defence isn't horrendous his attacking prowess and go forward is pretty much zilch. I can't fault his effort but for me he hasn't shown anything to say he can make it in super league. He has no offload game, little line-breaking ability and limited pace from what I've seen. However, with a good pre-season under his belt, you never know. Some players come from nowhere. Like Annakin at the beginning of last season.

8. Scott Anderson
9. Paul Mcshane
10. Richie Moore
11. Taulima Tautai
12. Danny Kirmond
13. Matt Ryan

14. Andy Raleigh
15. Dan Smith
16. Ali Lauitiiti
17. Matt Wildie

Need to start with some real grunt and aggression up front hence Anderson, Moore and Tautai with Ali at his best out wide when defences tiring bring him on plus Wildie's pace around the play the ball. Just think we need more from our 13 this season so would try Ryan there.

Feel for Kyle a bit. He has been messed about somewhat over the last 2/3 years. One minute telling him to bulk up the next to lose some. His defence and work rate for me are better than Annakins but you don't get the same impact with his carries.

On a positive note it's nice to have a couple of young forwards who are both home grown and if either are in the 17 you have no concerns as they have very rarely let us down.

Haven't seen Trout since they returned to training so no idea whether he has bulked up at all but if he is on the same programme as Annakin you can expect him to have put on some size.
Annakin was at the Shirt launch and looks to have really piled it on (in the best possible way)