No player bigger than the club.

Two major transfer rumours recently with him, if he is looking to go, then will his heart be in it for us.

Never want to see players go, but it he dos go, they'd soon get tried of his lazy defence and chepa penalties he gives away.

Don't quite get this !
You first say you don't want to see him go but then state he is lazy in defence and gives away cheap penalty,if this is true why would you want to keep him

What I'm trying to say IT is that he can be as frustrating to watch, just as much as he can be good.

Wouldnt break the bank to keep him.

Wasn’t he top tackler and top metre maker v saints? Certainly one of them! ...

Offer the best we can, his effectiveness is not easily replaced. If it's still not enough then so be it.

Let’s hope that similar to what his brother Andrew did with Australia and Tonga, he doesn’t go running for the extra bit of money.

This would be a real blow for us.

One unsubstantiated rumour and the forum goes into meltdown. If I was to say we are talking to Roby at St Helens it’s not true but I doubt many on their forum will be in panic mode, so why are some of us.

You are having a laugh. He hardly ever misses tackles. Check the stats.

Indeed.
No one on the Leeds forum is talking about it.
One gossip column says its possible based solely on the fact he's out of contract and Leeds have a poor pack and one Cas fan who only seems to post on our forum........ I don't take that as a fact yet.

We need to offer him a good contract to give him a reason not to go but there is a limit.

The rumours are there because he's class and simultaneously coming to the end of a contract. Nothing to do with "looking to go"

he gives away at least 100 pens a year.

its a loss though as we have no one to replace him but does open up a quota spot - half back half back!


he will goes where the money is and who can blame him- when it comes down to money we just can not compete with the big clubs...

I wish you'd give it a rest.

Can you give the penalty stats please

If Leeds want an out of contract player that will make them great again they'd be better going for Jackson Hastings or even Theo Fages.

For 2018
Fifita was 10th on the list of most tackles made (Trinity players only) and 19th on the Misssed tackles list - 436 made, 19 missed - About 4.2%
Ashurst was top of the tackle count and 6th in the missed tackle count - 1058 made, 46 missed - About 4.35%

For 2019 (only 2 games but..)
Fifita is 3rd in tackle count, 14th in missed tackle count - 67 made, 1 missed - Just under 1.5%
Ashurst is top in tackle count, 19th in missed tackle count - 70 made, 0 missed - 0%


Of the players around Fifita in the number of tackles made last year
England - Made 500, Missed 38 = 7.1% Missed
Miller - Made 491, Missed 107 = 17.9% Missed
Batchelor - Made 485, Missed 22 = 4.3% Missed
Huby - Made 428, Missed 34 = 7.4% Missed
Hampshire - Made 422, Missed 52 = 11% Missed
Lyne - Made 418, Missed 41 = 8.9% Missed

So, of the 3 players either side of him in terms of tackles made, plus the best tackler in the club, he missed less as a percentage than any of them.
He also conceded 11 less penalties than Ashurst did (17 vs 2icon_cool.gif

I know stats are not everything but the statement that Bozo42 made is clearly a load of tosh!!