Williams is an excellent talent, Rocky is better as I believe he is blessed with greater God given talents. Have a look at the England Academy tour highlights from 2012, Rocky was the stand out player on both sides. They both set of on the same path to stardom, Williams got the breaks. For whatever reason Wane, who has proved to be the greatest coach in SL history and a coach who has never been frightened of promoting youth, never gave Rocky a fair crack, he persisted in playing Smith. So Williams and Rocky`s paths went in different directions. My bet is that Rocky ends up a world class RL super star, his path will have been the more difficult but it will I think leave him better prepared to reach world RL superstar status. I also think Chester has a big role to play, Rocky should be a starting 7, Rough should be a back up player to cover 6, 7 and 1 in case of injury.

If Hampshire is better than Brough and/or brings more to the team currently then he plays, if not he does not, quite simple for me. Chester does not owe anything to anyone and should be picking what he believes to be his best team.

Apart from quicker pace I am not sure what better talents Hampshire possess. He's certainly kept them well hidden for the last 5 years.

I don't see how it's possible to say that Hampshire is better than Williams, since he's only really started in that position for us recently - whereas Williams has been Wigan's first choice for quite a while; he may well turn out to be, but since he's been held back for various reasons, he's quite some way behind Williams at this stage.

I'm sorry but Hampshires ability as a junior are now utterly irrelevant - loads of players look great at Academy level but never hack it against the misters.

Dare you say Annakin?

That wasn't really my point, it was more why we seem to persist with some players and not with others.

Of course Williams is currently better and so he should be he's been a SL regular for a number of years. However there is the rub and where I disagree with you. Williams is nowhere near as good as he should be at this point in his career as he gets exposed in every international he plays in.

Problem is he's functional which works at club level but he isn't inspirational as required at international level. Name me a single thing he did in any of the three tests? Maybe one try assist. We need so much more than that but we have absolutely no options.

At least Hampshire provides flashes of individual genius, I just never see that in Williams.

Basically I'm just sick of robotic system driven players used at the top levels of the UK game. What I want is far more strong willed, cocky and independent minded individuals.

Lets be honest, at Super League level Gale looks like the man, he is cocky and is the type of half that just gets under the oppositions skins, a player that oppositions fans love to hate and a club level he is bloody good, he can control a game very well and has got a great kicking game - Yet at international level he looks like a little boy out of his depth and goes into hiding, he is quite the opposite in and England shirt. Some players are very well suited to the international scene, they just play there usual game, okay they might not be the best in there position in terms of ability but they can perform on that level, not sure what it is - For some players it could be nerves, for others it could be playing around different players or maybe it`s the way they are being asked to play by WB just doesn't suit there game?

Apologies for going off on a tangent, my point is one that is separate to the current debate but one that I believe should be considered when selecting/reelecting players to play for England.

I agree with your point HV.
It is also sometimes about playing a different structure with a different team.
Gale plays well at Cas because he suits that style.
You like to think Bennett will work on that with him but as an example he's probably a better half back than Jake Connor but Connor looks like he can fit in any style in pretty much any position.

The same can apply at club. Those saying Hampshire hasn't shown it at his previous club may be surprised if Wakefield suits his style more and he turns their perception around.

And Connor as the grubiness that a a good half back needs to get under the oppositions skin

If Brough was that good why did Leeds,Sts,Wire,Wigan come knocking on his door? or the NRL

The reference to ability as a junior and pointing whoever may be interested in educating themselves in the direction of the Academy tour of 2012 videos that are readily available to watch, if you tube to do so , was to prove the obvious point I was making about God given talent. God given talent as a youngster of course has a massive effect of the ability of said player to go on to great things as a senior, only a dullard would think otherwise. There are many reasons why perhaps some talented young players have not gone on to achieve as much as hoped, in my opinion luck, attitude and coaching are principle among these.

He may or may not be the best British HB of the last 10 years but the fact that any of the above didn'y sign him is irrelevant.

Shudds made him a huge offer way bigger than anyone else and with Brough's off field issues it was an offer he couldn't refuse - this is one of the few things I claim o know as fact.

As it happens I think Hudds got a good deal and he was worth every penny they paid him.