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| hello every body, this is my first post. i started reading the forum some time ago but i am only slowly coming to grips with computers. this bit about old belle vue finally made me pluck up the courage to try an entry. in the early 1960's the proceeds of 2 paper rounds allowed me to watch all the local clubs, trin cas and featherstone. i always found belle vue to be a place of wonderment then as a small kid. every thing about it seemed to affect the senses the team were fantastic from 1 to 13. the pitch always seemed the greenest of green and all the tries seemed to be scored from a long way out. but the one thing that set it apart from other grounds that i visited was the west stand. in those days i didn't even know it was called the west stand but it seemed in those days to rise almost cathedral like. in a way the old photo's have spoilt the memory a bit as i remembered it being much grander than that. i seem to remember the ornate fascia been all done in red white and blue. it always seemed to be full of men in camel hair coats and trilby hats with wives who had high beehive hairstyles and a bit too much make up on. it was one of my ambitions to sit in that stand when i got older but i never managed it before it got knocked down and i have always regretted it. i know most of you would like the new stadium but if i could have the old belle vue back with some more up to date facilities i'd take it in a heartbeat.
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| Quote: Emley Cat "I remember that game Charlie, I was 10 at the time and I had been taken a few times by my dad too. It must have been a TV game because it was a Saturday and it was amazing seeing the ground packed to the rafters. I'm pretty sure we were drawn at home in every round, been wracking my brain to try and remember who we beat in the first 2 rounds, St Helens rings a bell and Featherstone but am not sure on that one. I'd like to own a comprehensive collection of all seasons results from the 1960s if anyone has such a list of results, teams played, scorers and cup runs I'd be most grateful. I've got loads of footage on video of games but in a lot of cases one season pales into another, certainly when I was younger and lived in Cheshire it was harder then to get to games. If I had a list of results season by season I'd be able to recall those great matches I went to when I was a lad. Hope someone can help.'"
I have a load of stats, let me know exactly what you need and I will see what I can do.
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| Quote: Lindops white socks "hello every body, this is my first post. i started reading the forum some time ago but i am only slowly coming to grips with computers. this bit about old belle vue finally made me pluck up the courage to try an entry. in the early 1960's the proceeds of 2 paper rounds allowed me to watch all the local clubs, trin cas and featherstone. i always found belle vue to be a place of wonderment then as a small kid. every thing about it seemed to affect the senses the team were fantastic from 1 to 13. the pitch always seemed the greenest of green and all the tries seemed to be scored from a long way out. but the one thing that set it apart from other grounds that i visited was the west stand. in those days i didn't even know it was called the west stand but it seemed in those days to rise almost cathedral like. in a way the old photo's have spoilt the memory a bit as i remembered it being much grander than that. i seem to remember the ornate fascia been all done in red white and blue. it always seemed to be full of men in camel hair coats and trilby hats with wives who had high beehive hairstyles and a bit too much make up on. it was one of my ambitions to sit in that stand when i got older but i never managed it before it got knocked down and i have always regretted it. i know most of you would like the new stadium but if i could have the old belle vue back with some more up to date facilities i'd take it in a heartbeat.'"
I agree. Couldn't give a toss about a posh new stadium other than for the fact without one we appear doomed. A couple of roofs to get some atmosphere and keep the rain off and i'd be happy
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| Quote: charlie63wildcat "Fills me with happy memories of my childhood. I was 1st taken by my Dad in 1971 and remember the south and west stands very well. The picture with the south stand reminds me of a 1975 3rd round challenge cup tie v Hull KR. 14000 crammed in to BV.
I remember being in BV in the early 60's when there were nearly 28,000 in the ground! We were playing Wigan in the Challenge cup and they won 2nil!
The great South African winger Jan Prinsloo (My best ever winger) could have won the game for Trinity as he was put clear with only one Wigan player to beat and chose to try and use his speed on the wing instead of coming inside but he was put into touch!
How did they get 28,000 in the ground? well they only managed it because i sat on my dads shoulders!
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Hello there
I found these gems of Belle Vue a while back – hard to believe that there used to be a cycling track round the ground, which accounts for old the old sunken terracing at the front.
i180.photobucket.com/albums/x100 ... lleVue.jpg
This one is from the 1960’s I guess...
i180.photobucket.com/albums/x100 ... leVue1.jpg
I first attended Belle Vue in 1985 with my Dad and, having been handed my free programme (little realising that this equated to the desperate state the club was in), went through the turnstiles to the left of what seemed to be massive West Stand. I remember walking through the through the corridor at the back of it and also going under the stand. It was a match towards the end of the season and nobody seems to have been bothered. Apparently the stand used to have four chimneys at the rear.
When we came back for the start of the new season it was gone and the ground was even poorer for it.
The South Stand was already long gone with just the retaining wall there and I was told that it was because the houses behind weren’t getting enough light. I only found out the real reason years later. Wish I’d seen Belle Vue as the original four sided ground was.
At least we still have the oldest rugby league ground in the world (and doesn’t it show) and haven’t suffered the loss of a ground like at Halifax, Swinton or Oldham. I’d be happy just updating Belle Vue and have a 15,000 capacity with half standing, half seating, but that’s just me. Maybe the ground’s just in the wrong area for modern corporate needs with inadequate access and parking...
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Hello there
I found these gems of Belle Vue a while back – hard to believe that there used to be a cycling track round the ground, which accounts for old the old sunken terracing at the front.
i180.photobucket.com/albums/x100 ... lleVue.jpg
This one is from the 1960’s I guess...
i180.photobucket.com/albums/x100 ... leVue1.jpg
I first attended Belle Vue in 1985 with my Dad and, having been handed my free programme (little realising that this equated to the desperate state the club was in), went through the turnstiles to the left of what seemed to be massive West Stand. I remember walking through the through the corridor at the back of it and also going under the stand. It was a match towards the end of the season and nobody seems to have been bothered. Apparently the stand used to have four chimneys at the rear.
When we came back for the start of the new season it was gone and the ground was even poorer for it.
The South Stand was already long gone with just the retaining wall there and I was told that it was because the houses behind weren’t getting enough light. I only found out the real reason years later. Wish I’d seen Belle Vue as the original four sided ground was.
At least we still have the oldest rugby league ground in the world (and doesn’t it show) and haven’t suffered the loss of a ground like at Halifax, Swinton or Oldham. I’d be happy just updating Belle Vue and have a 15,000 capacity with half standing, half seating, but that’s just me. Maybe the ground’s just in the wrong area for modern corporate needs with inadequate access and parking...
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| Quote: London Trinity "Hello there
I found these gems of Belle Vue a while back – hard to believe that there used to be a cycling track round the ground, which accounts for old the old sunken terracing at the front.
Thats the first time i have seen or heard of that cycle track, what a amazing photo, thanks very much.
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| Quote: London Trinity "At least we still have the oldest rugby league ground in the world (and doesn’t it show) and haven’t suffered the loss of a ground like at Halifax, Swinton or Oldham. I’d be happy just updating Belle Vue and have a 15,000 capacity with half standing, half seating, but that’s just me. Maybe the ground’s just in the wrong area for modern corporate needs with inadequate access and parking...'"
Indeed - it's a pity that an organisation like, say, the RFL don't have a policy of preserving 'iconic' rugby league grounds that are at risk of being lost...
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| First time for me as well viewing the cycle track.
Thanks for that.
A fully renovated Belle Vue would also be my first choice
But never mind , see you all at Newmarket.
What a tortuous wait.
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| Quote: London Trinity "Hello there
I found these gems of Belle Vue a while back – hard to believe that there used to be a cycling track round the ground, which accounts for old the old sunken terracing at the front.
Wonderful images of the ground. Wish it still looked like that
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Thats the first time i have seen or heard of that cycle track, what a amazing photo, thanks very much.'"
Yep. If you ever wondered why the east and west terrace is lower than the pitch? If so that's the answer. Those areas were the base of the track which was raised above it and thus the two stands were at pitch level - or something like that.
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| Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "Didn't we take down the west stand straight after the Bradford fire thinking it would be condemmed then only to realise after we could have kept it, not sure if true but thats the tale doing the rounds at the time and after the South bank carry on very believable. What about the floodlights we were told we had to replace them in late 80s for saftey reasons while other clubs close to us under the same council with floodlights in worse condition could keep theirs, is that true?'"
My step-dad was principal electrical engineer for WMDC at the time, and he was the one that insisted on the floodlights being pulled down.. ...however, he stated that the reason for it was that the steel piping tubes that the floodlights were mounted on were all full to the top with stagnant water which had gradually filled up over the years, and they were rotten to the core. Apparently when they took off the supporting guide wires, the floodlights virtually fell down of their own accord !!!!!
Back on topic, regarding old pictures of BV, does anyone have any pics of the massive old scoreboard that used to stand on the northern terrace ??? Me and a couple of mates were the scoreboard operators for a good few years in the 80's, and we definitely had the best FREE seat in the house up there, although it did get a bit bleak in winter
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| Quote: vastman "Yep. If you ever wondered why the east and west terrace is lower than the pitch? If so that's the answer. Those areas were the base of the track which was raised above it and thus the two stands were at pitch level - or something like that.'"
It's a pity something like that can't be reimagined at NM; we're missing a cycle track in Wakefield as far as I know, despite having a thriving triathlon club - I'm sure it would add to the offering of a community facility, given the increased popularity in cycling, thanks to the UK's various world/olympic champions.
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| Quote: bren2k "It's a pity something like that can't be reimagined at NM; we're missing a cycle track in Wakefield as far as I know, despite having a thriving triathlon club - I'm sure it would add to the offering of a community facility, given the increased popularity in cycling, thanks to the UK's various world/olympic champions.'"
I'm all in favour of cycling, but we want to be as close to the action as possible, not struggling to see the game (like Odsal )
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "I'm all in favour of cycling, but we want to be as close to the action as possible, not struggling to see the game (like Odsal
Aye, me too; would be better placed around the training pitch maybe - nothing like being close to the action.
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| Quote: bren2k "Indeed - it's a pity that an organisation like, say, the RFL don't have a policy of preserving 'iconic' rugby league grounds that are at risk of being lost...'"
thats what i was trying to suggest in my earlier post. just like fulham at craven cottage it would surely be a fantastic attraction to be an original old ground rejuvenated to its former glory as against all the new souless plastic stadiums. i'm sure with a little imagination and some help and co-ordination from the RFL it could be done. AND ALL KICK OFFS AT 3PM ON SATURDAY.
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