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Quote: Redscat "Previous post should read "utilising the existing building.........."'"

Now that's not a bad idea, used to like going bowling and having a few drinks. I know quite a few have to travel to get a game in nowadays. The old one used to have 2 floors and god knows how many lanes, something smaller would do business in the town IMO.

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Bowling alley with a pool hall would be good in that spot.

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Quote: Redscat "I was in Exeter in Devon last Friday, a city of similar size to Wakefield. The centre was absolutely teeming. All the big name shops and stores plus hundreds of small independant outlets. Admittedly the nearest large town (Plymouth) is about 35 miles away, but to see such a thriving area makes me all the more despondent when I see what legacy we are left with in Wakefield.'"
I think you'll find both Devon and Cornwall being similar where they have thriving cities due to the locations, we've just come back from Devon to and was 15 mins to a local town but to get to a descent shopping area took 45 mins drive so they are bound to be thriving if you want cheaper goods

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Quote: FIL "You are Peter Box and I claim my £5
Balne Lane is not a non starter in a functional sense, far from it. All obstacles could be overcome with an committed council pushing it, it's no less feasible than BV or NM in that respect.

That however isn't the problem. The rub is that IMHO the council no more has the will to make this work than they did Thornes, NM or BV. You could give them the perfect site for free and it still wouldn't happen. Until there are big changes at WMDC nothing will happen.

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Absolutely agree, WAKEY council - or dare isay, go on then Peter box, Arsenal supporters, always gunner !

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It has been said more than once that the council policy is how NOT to build a Stadium, rather than how TO build one!

Time will tell all!

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Quote: Fishermanscap "Balne Lane is not a non starter in a functional sense, far from it. All obstacles could be overcome with an committed council pushing it, it's no less feasible than BV or NM in that respect.

That however isn't the problem. The rub is that IMHO the council no more has the will to make this work than they did Thornes, NM or BV. You could give them the perfect site for free and it still wouldn't happen. Until there are big changes at WMDC nothing will happen.'"


I agree with most of your points, especially that a committed Council could get one sorted nearly anywhere within reason.

But just on the feasibility side of things, when you compare Newmarket to the 'proposed' Balne Lane one imo it's night and day. One has got the planning permission sorted and just needs the developer to pull their fingers out, hit the trigger point and get the builders in. While the other would come under even more scrutiny than Newmarket did, considering the amount of housing and the number of changes to the roads to accommodate it. God knows how long that would take and even then you're not guaranteed anything at the end as we've seen already. Plus Newmarket sits on a dual carriageway, next to the M62, with the access already sorted and was meant to have more parking than a lot of SL stadiums, even though some said it wasn't enough. Also, I think IF it was built elsewhere, we'd lose the other aspects of the site like the 2 Multi-use pitches etc, which for me is a big part of it.

it's got to the point though it almost feels pointless talking about it, but ateotd we have to still push as the public of Wakefield and as a Club for what the Community was promised and not let the buggers off the hook, unlike what WMDC seems to want to do.

Whatever happened to the line that Box came out with to Yorkcourt. That was something along the lines of, get some units built as to start the Stadium build etc, or let another developer take over the project.

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Quote: Shifty Cat "I agree with most of your points, especially that a committed Council could get one sorted nearly anywhere within reason.

But just on the feasibility side of things, when you compare Newmarket to the 'proposed' Balne Lane one imo it's night and day. One has got the planning permission sorted and just needs the developer to pull their fingers out, hit the trigger point and get the builders in. While the other would come under even more scrutiny than Newmarket did, considering the amount of housing and the number of changes to the roads to accommodate it. God knows how long that would take and even then you're not guaranteed anything at the end as we've seen already. Plus Newmarket sits on a dual carriageway, next to the M62, with the access already sorted and was meant to have more parking than a lot of SL stadiums, even though some said it wasn't enough. Also, I think IF it was built elsewhere, we'd lose the other aspects of the site like the 2 Multi-use pitches etc, which for me is a big part of it.

it's got to the point though it almost feels pointless talking about it, but ateotd we have to still push as the public of Wakefield and as a Club for what the Community was promised and not let the buggers off the hook, unlike what WMDC seems to want to do.

Whatever happened to the line that Box came out with to Yorkcourt. That was something along the lines of, get some units built as to start the Stadium build etc, or let another developer take over the project.'"


I totally accept Balne Lane is the worst option so far, a poor one in many ways, for me Thornes was the best followed by BV then NM but that's just my opinion. However that wasn't the point which I'm sure you realise. The point was that none are viable with Box in charge, all are viable with someone in charge with a genuine desire to make it work.

Truth is if I were a politician but not a sports fan and certainly not a RL fan I'd go for a joint Community Stadium and bully the clubs into accepting a ground share. If Box had a spine and some real political intelligence this would get rid of this running sore very quickly and at the same time give him some much needed kudos. However he's a small minded small town politician who's too stupid for Westminster but slightly brighter and certainly more cunning than your average local councillor.

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Quote: Shifty Cat "I agree with most of your points, especially that a committed Council could get one sorted nearly anywhere within reason.

But just on the feasibility side of things, when you compare Newmarket to the 'proposed' Balne Lane one imo it's night and day. One has got the planning permission sorted and just needs the developer to pull their fingers out, hit the trigger point and get the builders in. While the other would come under even more scrutiny than Newmarket did, considering the amount of housing and the number of changes to the roads to accommodate it. God knows how long that would take and even then you're not guaranteed anything at the end as we've seen already. Plus Newmarket sits on a dual carriageway, next to the M62, with the access already sorted and was meant to have more parking than a lot of SL stadiums, even though some said it wasn't enough. Also, I think IF it was built elsewhere, we'd lose the other aspects of the site like the 2 Multi-use pitches etc, which for me is a big part of it.

it's got to the point though it almost feels pointless talking about it, but ateotd we have to still push as the public of Wakefield and as a Club for what the Community was promised and not let the buggers off the hook, unlike what WMDC seems to want to do.

Quote: Shifty Cat "Whatever happened to the line that Box came out with to Yorkcourt. That was something along the lines of, get some units built as to start the Stadium build etc, or let another developer take over the projec'"
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To quote an old Bee Gees song: " It's only words, and words are all I have to take your heart away"

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Build it on the land behind Ted's flats

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Think people are ‘writing off ‘ Balne Lane too hastily. 15 minutes walk from city centre parking, 15 minutes walk from Westgate station. 15 minutes walk from White Hart and other pubs down Westgate, where loads of buse run to.
Access roads etc according to my planning friend surmountable,

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Quote: thebeagle "Think people are ‘writing off ‘ Balne Lane too hastily. 15 minutes walk from city centre parking, 15 minutes walk from Westgate station. 15 minutes walk from White Hart and other pubs down Westgate, where loads of buse run to.
Access roads etc according to my planning friend surmountable,'"


I'm finding it hard to believe that we are even discussing Balne Lane as an option!

Never mind access roads, it's surrounded by houses on 3 sides and a railway embankment on the other.

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Quote: Lockers700 "I'm finding it hard to believe that we are even discussing Balne Lane as an option!

Never mind access roads, it's surrounded by houses on 3 sides and a railway embankment on the other.'"


What’s a stadium meant to be surrounded by? Belle Vue’s surrounded by housing.

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Many grounds are surrounded by houses. Headingly . Not stopped development there . Hull FC ground surrounded by houses. Hull KR and Widnes two more.

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