After reading the whole letter in league express, the only words that spring to mind are "what a total .."

"The planning inspector reference to dis aggregation in his report to the secretary of state was concerned with the quantum of development needed to enable the construction of the stadium and whether the scale of development could be delivered on an alternative site with less environmental impact. The inspector comments were not directed at the acceptability or not of any future potential developments on the wider site" is what he said, so the secretary of states report didn't say the site shouldn't be separated up into individual developments then, and the only reason they passed it was the need for a new stadium for Wakefield? What report did this bloke read????

For some clarity:



The site is divided in 3 principal areas:



1. The stadium site which remains in GB

2. The B8 development land which is removed from GB

3. The A3, A1, Hotel & Restaurant site which remains in GB



It would seem that WMDC believe that Anyone can develop on the B8 land without reference to the 106 - a point we strongly contest - even if the original OPP lapses. This land is re-designated and can be applied for new PP quite reasonably, albeit we still maintain that there is a land charge on this area.



The Stadium site and the remaining areas can on,y be developed under the original OPP. If the developer does not follow the original OPP and the conditions set, he will lose this area and it will return to GB and will be very difficult to remove from it, just leaving an industrial estate on the former colliery land.



IF he considers the Stadium issue to be too big to fund, he could sacrifice the remainder of the site and just accept the profit he can realise from the B8 land and no more. I'm not saying he will do this, but he might, and this is all brought about by the disaggregation of the site - via a loophole that WMDC claim to have taken legal advice over for which we were told does not exist but is now referenced by Neil Rodgers who was not there at the time! Either Neil has seen something we have been told does not exist OR it still doesn't exist as formal legal advice! Which is it? A further FOI has been submitted!

My new neighbour of two months from Somerset, who has no knowledge of RL , was shown the response of the council in a letter I received from Mary Creagh and also the League Exp letter,and said they seemed to being deliberately obstructive and could not understand why they were not pressing for the new community facility to go ahead.

He said why were they involved in the first place if they do not support it now?

An simplistic, immediate response from someone with no 'axe to grind'.

What are the total square metre amounts for each of the 3 principle areas?

And how much is the Newcold building taking up?

Without digging around I am not sure, but its reasonably substantial areas which are left. There is plenty of B8 to reach the 60,000m2.



Is there enough to fund a Stadium in full, probably not.



We particularly like the bit where it says about 'if the developer is minded' or something to that effect - it isn't if hes minded, he bloomin well obligated!!!! Otherwise, what is the point of a 106???

I asked this earlier but no one replied



Do we have any other funding in place or if not in place then guaranteed should the project go ahead or funding that we know 100% is accessible to us once we sign contracts to build or more speculative possible sources of funding identified that yet need applying for?



If yes to any of the above, can someone categorise the sources for me and give approximate values?



Thanks

Having contacted Mr Ed Balls regarding the stadium issue, I have now received a reply telling me how he is fully in support of the stadium project and how "everyone" needs to get back round the table and get the stadium "back on track".



I have reminded him that our council have said this is not a matter for them and I will let people know if/when he responds.

Do we know what was said in the meeting(s) between Glover & Elston and the developers?

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Finally got a response to my email to Ed Balls on the eve of the election!!!

This is what he had to say:



The Wakefield Wildcats and their supporters deserve a new stadium. That is why from the outset I have supported proposals for a new community stadium.



Back in 2012 we were told this development was the only viable proposal for a new stadium. As well as being a home for the Wildcats, a new stadium would bring badly needed jobs and investment into our part of the district.



I wrote to the Secretary of State, Eric Pickles to back their plan and to urge him not to put planning obstacles in its path. Sadly, plans for the new community stadium have stalled; but the need for a new stadium has not gone away. Fans, the club and local people deserve a community stadium and the whole area would benefit from the new, good jobs it would bring.



That’s why everyone needs to get round the table again to hammer out a way forward. We need a renewed effort to get the stadium back on track.



With my Labour colleagues Mary Creagh and Jon Trickett, I will continue to work with the community stadium trust, fans and the Council to secure the future of the club and the new stadium.



Here is the statement we have made to the Council and to the Wakefield Express:



“Wakefield Trinity Wildcats’ proud history is at the heart of the city’s sporting life. We have supported the community stadium process for several years, contacting Wakefield Council on several occasions. We will continue to work with the community stadium trust, fans and the Council to secure the future of the club and the new stadium. We stand ready to support the club in any way we can.”



We need a new stadium and I will always do everything I can to support the club.



Ed Balls

I got the exact same reply - a true mark of respect for my position on the Trust he claims to be working with!



Make of that what you will.



It's better then nothing, but what can you do with a hill of beans?

As a result of all the procrastinating we are having to go back to the drawing board, so no, we don't have any values committed at this time! There ain't much point until we get to a point of knowing what we might get from our major funding source!

i ALSO GOT THE SAME REPLY!The guy is a joke Andrea JenkYns time! WORDS INTO ACTION !!!!

Given that the stadium was back on the agenda and moving forward, does the Stadium Trust have a round about figure they feel is achievable, could raise or would need to raise to add to the funding from YCP?

I'm not going to get drawn into numbers on here, but the fact that we offered a significant compromise suggests the number we think will be available ultimately will be lower. Investigations are ongoing.

Anyone still thinking that Newmarket is a good idea if someone else will build it for us just take note of what is happening at the AJ Bell. Only 1900 for the last home game and 40 percent of season ticket holders { and I believe they have less than us} not even going. It will be the same story for us if Newmarket ever gets built. Rebuilding Bellevue is the only option although I don't know how we are going to manage that!

Especially now with work going on at the gym & super bowl ( don't know what type of work)

Demolition?

perhaps the players are using it!

BV is not even an option at the moment, never mind the only one!



NM would not be an AJ Bell in so many ways!

NM will be the same because success is what supporters want not a nice shiny stadium. If the club does not change the latter any new stadium will still not attract the supporters.

To give you a chance why do you think NM will be different to AJ Bell.

Of course success is important. But if I thought for one second that we would have less than 2k supporters watching our team in NM, whilst sitting in the top 4, then I wouldn't be here now, doing this.



This is a sleeping giant, almost comatose, but waiting to be awakened non-the-less.



As things stand, BV is not an option. It may yet become one, but the legal side all says we go to NM. If we give up on that, we may have no home at all.



Let's not sugar coat this - we may end up out of Wakefield altogether and face a slow, Swinton style, death. Choosing between that and a viable future at NM is a no-brainer for me!

Great words TrB yes Wakey is a sleeping giant .if we can get a stadium at nm ..that will be a start of great things to come

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