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Quote: musson "Well you did ask……
However there is no need for abuse, I will leave that to you

You are a true font of rl knowledge

I wish more than anything that you could get a role within the club
As I’m sure the few remaining that post on here will do also

Our top 4 status would be almost guaranteed with you advising MC on how to run a business and Poaching on how to coach, you could even help the physio as well as the strength and conditioning team with your almost infinite knowledge drawn from Wikipedia and google.

If only you could mentor the youngsters coming through with your vast on field rl experience
Can you imagine…….. soon be producing England international on a weekly basis

You are a true RL polymath vastman'"


So you will leave abuse to others but then send a long post like this where no part of it is about anything but Vastman.
Leave it out. You don't have to agree but at least just make your point with trying to belittle the other. That applies to everyone.

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Quote: Slugger McBatt "I think Gaskell won a Grand Final at centre when he was at Saints.'"


No he only played in one and that was when they lost to Leeds and he was Stand Off.

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Quote: musson "Well you did ask……
However there is no need for abuse, I will leave that to you

You are a true font of rl knowledge

I wish more than anything that you could get a role within the club
As I’m sure the few remaining that post on here will do also

Our top 4 status would be almost guaranteed with you advising MC on how to run a business and Poaching on how to coach, you could even help the physio as well as the strength and conditioning team with your almost infinite knowledge drawn from Wikipedia and google.

If only you could mentor the youngsters coming through with your vast on field rl experience
Can you imagine…….. soon be producing England international on a weekly basis

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I give up.

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Quote: PopTart "No he only played in one and that was when they lost to Leeds and he was Stand Off.'"


The crux is that he can play there and reasonably well from what I have seen.

Bill would be the first choice in anyone's book but I can't see him being totally match ready to play in all the start of season games. ditto Croft the next in line. So by default that's his best chance to cement his place, I assume he will go for it meaning Bill will have some work on his hands, I see that as a positive.

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Vasty you would choose Bill as first choice centre on the basis of what ... his performances several years ago ? , injury 100 % made him our least effective centre over the last three seasons, its like saying Neil Fox is our first choice centre. Any judge looking at our centres over last three seasons would put Bill at last choice centre. We have got to hope that he makes a full recovery from his latest injury and gets some form back. Our best centre was Arundel, lets hope Croft comes back from his injury and that we can sign a new centre. The idea of playing Gaskill in the centre is madness, amongst his skill set you will not find defence or ball carrying. He can cover 6 and 7. He is not a patch on Rocky in any position, Rocky`s skill set is vastly superior in every aspect of the game. Madness that Chester did not get Rocky signed up.

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Quote: bellycouldtackle "Vasty you would choose Bill as first choice centre on the basis of what ... his performances several years ago ? , injury 100 % made him our least effective centre over the last three seasons, its like saying Neil Fox is our first choice centre. Any judge looking at our centres over last three seasons would put Bill at last choice centre. We have got to hope that he makes a full recovery from his latest injury and gets some form back. Our best centre was Arundel, lets hope Croft comes back from his injury and that we can sign a new centre. The idea of playing Gaskill in the centre is madness, amongst his skill set you will not find defence or ball carrying. He can cover 6 and 7. He is not a patch on Rocky in any position, Rocky`s skill set is vastly superior in every aspect of the game. Madness that Chester did not get Rocky signed up.'"


Fair point all be it massively OTT as usual.

Who would you choose as the first choice centre if Bill was 100% fit?

Not any judge by the way Belly, just you and one or two others icon_lol.gif

I have to wonder, if Joe is that good (and I always liked him) why is he at Halifax and not another SL club?

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Quote: vastman "Fair point all be it massively OTT as usual.

Who would you choose as the first choice centre if Bill was 100% fit?

Not any judge by the way Belly, just you and one or two others
Joe could have joined stayed in SL, he took the decision to drop down and play part time.

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Quote: vastman "The crux is that he can play there and reasonably well from what I have seen.

Bill would be the first choice in anyone's book but I can't see him being totally match ready to play in all the start of season games. ditto Croft the next in line. So by default that's his best chance to cement his place, I assume he will go for it meaning Bill will have some work on his hands, I see that as a positive.'"


Yes he ibly could play there and you are right he has played there before but so as batch do you want him starting the season at centre.gaskell if and when fit should be 1 6 or 7 and if he doesnt it could prove to be another bad cc signing.i think the whole back division is a problem and concerns me we have 3 centres 1 is quality 1 use to be quality but hasnt been for 3 years and is ciming back from a long time out with a serious injury and the other is a largely unproven younster coming back from a serious injury then the wingers 1 injury prone 1 out till may plus linham and kay who is apparently going to be more of an hooker.within a couple of games we could be struggling yes the injured players could come back fit as ever and return to form or take time to get back into it.(if only we ha a crystal ball)now im all for youngsters been given a chance and im sure murphy could go well but we cant afford to many at once.

Course im not allowed to have any negativity or be in the slightest bit concerned about my club

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Quote: Luppylad "Yes he ibly could play there and you are right he has played there before but so as batch do you want him starting the season at centre.gaskell if and when fit should be 1 6 or 7 and if he doesnt it could prove to be another bad cc signing.i think the whole back division is a problem and concerns me we have 3 centres 1 is quality 1 use to be quality but hasnt been for 3 years and is ciming back from a long time out with a serious injury and the other is a largely unproven younster coming back from a serious injury then the wingers 1 injury prone 1 out till may plus linham and kay who is apparently going to be more of an hooker.within a couple of games we could be struggling yes the injured players could come back fit as ever and return to form or take time to get back into it.(if only we ha a crystal ball)now im all for youngsters been given a chance and im sure murphy could go well but we cant afford to many at once.

Course im not allowed to have any negativity or be in the slightest bit concerned about my club'"


You make me laugh as all people do with this attitude.

Do you somehow think you're so brilliant that you've spotted issues the rest of us are too dumb to notice, including MC/JM/WP and uncle Tom Cobley and all? Thus anyone who is positive is rose-tinted, whilst you are somehow realistic and in touch with reality.

You don't need to be smart to find problems, especially at a small club like ours. To find the answer is what makes you smart.

So to save Jose from pointing out the obvious, here are some questions. How are you going to fund the team you want, how are you going to pay off all those players you want rid of, including paying all the inevitable legal costs. Did you apply for the head coach job at the club, you really should have, though unluckily for you I'm apparently next in line.

My question to you is why do you continually point out the blooming obvious yet offer absolutely no real answers? We employ a coaching team to sort out the team and have a BOD's to do the rest off-field and they simply can't please everyone. If you can do better go for it but like the rest of us you can't because you don't have the ability or the cash do you?

Opinions are opinions but there comes a point where it's just moaning for the sake of it in my opinion. I'd get it if we were halfway through the season without a win but as yet we have not even finished putting the team together. So why not do what we are supposed to do, it's in our name, supporters, so just support at least until the wheels do actually come off. icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: Luppylad "Yes he ibly could play there and you are right he has played there before but so as batch do you want him starting the season at centre.gaskell if and when fit should be 1 6 or 7 and if he doesnt it could prove to be another bad cc signing.i think the whole back division is a problem and concerns me we have 3 centres 1 is quality 1 use to be quality but hasnt been for 3 years and is ciming back from a long time out with a serious injury and the other is a largely unproven younster coming back from a serious injury then the wingers 1 injury prone 1 out till may plus linham and kay who is apparently going to be more of an hooker.within a couple of games we could be struggling yes the injured players could come back fit as ever and return to form or take time to get back into it.(if only we ha a crystal ball)now im all for youngsters been given a chance and im sure murphy could go well but we cant afford to many at once.

Course im not allowed to have any negativity or be in the slightest bit concerned about my club'"


I'd say considering your assessment of the backs, Gaskell is an excellent signing as we need someone to cover them all.

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Quote: Wildcat26 "Joe could have joined stayed in SL, he took the decision to drop down and play part time.'"


I know, that's why I don't understand the fuss. I don't know but I suspect that being part-time suits him as he concentrates on his business commitments. It's not always the club that the bad guy.

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Quote: PopTart "I'd say considering your assessment of the backs, Gaskell is an excellent signing as we need someone to cover them all.'"


Yep cos his own injury record and age works perfect and i look forward to seeing him on the wing

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Quote: vastman "You make me laugh as all people do with this attitude.

Do you somehow think you're so brilliant that you've spotted issues the rest of us are too dumb to notice, including MC/JM/WP and uncle Tom Cobley and all? Thus anyone who is positive is rose-tinted, whilst you are somehow realistic and in touch with reality.

You don't need to be smart to find problems, especially at a small club like ours. To find the answer is what makes you smart.

So to save Jose from pointing out the obvious, here are some questions. How are you going to fund the team you want, how are you going to pay off all those players you want rid of, including paying all the inevitable legal costs. Did you apply for the head coach job at the club, you really should have, though unluckily for you I'm apparently next in line.

My question to you is why do you continually point out the blooming obvious yet offer absolutely no real answers? We employ a coaching team to sort out the team and have a BOD's to do the rest off-field and they simply can't please everyone. If you can do better go for it but like the rest of us you can't because you don't have the ability or the cash do you?

Opinions are opinions but there comes a point where it's just moaning for the sake of it in my opinion. I'd get it if we were halfway through the season without a win but as yet we have not even finished putting the team together. So why not do what we are supposed to do, it's in our name, supporters, so just support at least until the wheels do actually come off.

See first of all where have i said i want rid of players or players should simply be got rid of i havent i know contracts dont work like that but i am just pointing out the obvious and the concerns I have now the key word there is I and the concerns i have are mine and if i want to post that on here i will after allyou more than anyone posts more rubbish than biffa as to deal with.now without knowing the financial deals it isnt right to comment on why certain players have been signed or kept on and while every player who dons the trinity does and will always get my full support it doesnt mean i have to be excited and think we will become world beaters.and i do subscribe to trinity tv squadbuilder have a season ticket and have attended scolaship and academy so i think i am entitled to opinion im not slagging anyone off.as with regards running i think the mc does an excellent job and ive never questioned him or the rest of the BOD although he himself admits he got tranfers wrong over last couple years.but unlike you i dont think could run the club even if i was on wealth of the saudi who bought newcastle i still wouldnt run the club but i would trust MC JM RL and rest of the BOD with my millions to run it.of course though as already pointed on here dont understand why you dont run it with your expertise in sure we would be nrl champiins never mind sl champions

Anyway thats my last post for a long time on here more important things in life than to be reading your crap anymore

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Quote: Luppylad "See first of all where have i said i want rid of players or players should simply be got rid of i havent i know contracts dont work like that but i am just pointing out the obvious and the concerns I have now the key word there is I and the concerns i have are mine and if i want to post that on here i will after allyou more than anyone posts more rubbish than biffa as to deal with.now without knowing the financial deals it isnt right to comment on why certain players have been signed or kept on and while every player who dons the trinity does and will always get my full support it doesnt mean i have to be excited and think we will become world beaters.and i do subscribe to trinity tv squadbuilder have a season ticket and have attended scolaship and academy so i think i am entitled to opinion im not slagging anyone off.as with regards running i think the mc does an excellent job and ive never questioned him or the rest of the BOD although he himself admits he got tranfers wrong over last couple years.but unlike you i dont think could run the club even if i was on wealth of the saudi who bought newcastle i still wouldnt run the club but i would trust MC JM RL and rest of the BOD with my millions to run it.of course though as already pointed on here dont understand why you dont run it with your expertise in sure we would be nrl champiins never mind sl champions

Anyway thats my last post for a long time on here more important things in life than to be reading your crap anymore'"


Don’t read my crap then, just put me on ignore. Then you can post unchallenged. I don’t get why people post on here and are then shocked to be challenged, it’s a forum, it’s in the name.

Those who don’t wish to debate can go on Facebook and post whatever they want without correction or moderation.

I don’t go on Facebook because it’s not the place for debate or arguments, this forum is within the limitations of the AUP’s.

We all have the right to reply or ignore but we can’t cry foul when someone disagrees unless it’s personally offensive, have I I personally offended you, tricky as I don’t know you and that’s the key here. We are all anonymous (mostly) hence it’s not personal, you’re probably a lovely person, it’s your comments not you I’m questioning, though in fairness I don’t always manage to phrase it as well as I should, nobodies perfect.

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We all have our opinions and mine is that the current squad is not good enough compared to the rest of the league with the current exception of Toulouse. I hope we are not beginning to believe our invincibility when it comes to relegation and can get away with underfunding the squad for next season. We have lost 8 players from last years first team squad not including the young lad who went to Doncaster. We have currently signed a project from London coming back from a serious injury, Gaskell from Huddersfield, Hood from relegated Leigh and Lineham from Warrington who I think was brought in to replace Johnson whose contract ends at the end of next season.
The problem is that the other ten teams have strengthened and I am sure they will have also lost revenue from the new Sky deal.

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