Yeah, we're missing Scott Moore and the England of last season, I think those two are bigger factors overall than any of Millers shortcomings.

Didn't like it at the time, and don't like it now every time I watch Cas, but we never replaced McShane like for like neither.

"Never replaced McShane"

Good he was fat and lazy for us. Lazy kicking game. Like many other players he's benefited from Powell's turd polisher.

Agreed. Kyle Wood is playing better for us than McShane did. I still have nightmares about all those forward passes he'd throw from dummy half.

So.....you're saying I was disappointed when he left......for nothing!

damn

Given +10 start at most bookies, that's got to be worth a little dabble as we've not lost by more than 8 yet I think. Hopefully we get a win though to take some confidence (and points) into the next home game. I think the next three or four games are certainly ours to lose

Just looked at highlights from last league meeting at Belle Vue and their best player on the pitch that day was the referee...he was ridiculous with the harsh and uncalled for penalties..JJB should have got a yellow for trying to knock Fifita's head off which is what big Dave was responding to.....

Hopefully a level playing field tonight and Trinity have played well so far in appalling wet muddy conditions...it may be more of the same that is required.

Up the Trin

Bloody hell have we ever beaten Wakefield when it wasn't because of the referee?

You're kidding, go watch the Leeds try scored immediately before Ken Hirsts kick through and score.

If ever there was a referee manufactured try that's it!

Last tackle play has been shocking so FAR

Game over thanks to a stupid error

Too many penalties, too many mistakes. Got the wind in the second half though.

The number of tries we concede off the back of unforced errors is phenomenal. Got some work to do second half now.

FFS miller and that crash ball