I mentioned the troll word. Not specifically at you but equally yours was a post I would have identified as a potential troll.
The thing is, having supported since the 60s, I'm sure you'll agree that there have been bigger issues to get upset about and more than enough in recent times. It just looked a bit strange that you would have such a strong opinion on something like this where a player is being picked out with no real evidence, and to the level that you would create an account to jump on it.
Saying that, its your opinion and you have a right to write. If I caused offense I apologise.



So if I take your post again without thinking you are a troll I would say we clearly still disagree but primarily on the standard of player needed at Wakefield. You say that Leeds didn't want him and imply that we shouldn't either.
In my opinion, all of the current 13 at Leeds would be individually one of the best players in the Wakefield side if they were to come our way so I don't think it is such a bad thing to take someone from their second string. And imho, Bradford are in a more similar position to us than to Leeds so they'd probably be happy too.

Specifically on Smith, I don't think from what I've seen (and I've seen all his games in Wakefield colours) he has suddenly elevated himself to top player at Belle Vue, however what I do see is someone who has the ability and experience to be better than most of what we have. One thing we have lacked and are gradually building are players who can play with Tim Smith.
Its hard for a top player who has played with the best in the world to just fit in with players who are not used to that level of play. Sykes and Smith are two that we would not normally be able to buy but because of recent circumstances for both they found themselves out of favour and looked for us to be their way back. The thing I see with both players is experience of fast skillful play. That doesn't mean they are the best themselves, but having played with the likes of Sinfield and Burrow, and suceeded at that level, Smith is more switched on that most. You can see it in his reactions to things happening on the field. Add to that the big game pressure experience he is quite unique to bring that to our level.
What he lacks is playing time and general fitness. That can easily be put back to normal in an off season. I expect him to be a success next year, and in particular his wide play with Tim Smith's wide ball, and I think he will help draw others to that level too.

I guess time will tell us which one of us is correct.

Smith needs a coach to keep him on the rails and at the same time handle him right.Tony Smith dropped him then made him water carrier.That led up to him having his best couple of seasons

i realize that i could be shooting myself if smith turns out a good buy but its a risk im prepared take athletes and top players dont get out of condition i too saw all his games with us and his games against our reserves and for what its worth he showed me nothing that gives me hope for next season someone mentioned smith and mathers were ripping it up at training i watched some of the fitness running at quegs kirmond and raleighwere streets ahead of any one else there and if someone tells you different dont beleive itwhile youve got it in for me let me give you my opinion of mathers a player since leaving leeds as been rejected whereever hes been i agree thatat fullback is exposed but his job is to tackle people on saywell he misses afew one to ones but hes good for the team WHAT surely you must have seen when tries were scored against us last season he was always last on the scene add the fact that hes one of the slowest in our team and what have you got i was exited as anyone at those last eight gamrs terrific entertainment butnarrow wins could have been narrow defeats weve to back it this season and the players ive highlighted and il bring into the picture mellars arnt good enough but of course thats only my opinion

Can I suggest decaf?

Also, whilst I generally champion the much maligned semi-colon, I think the full stop still has a place.

to the two gentle men who replied to my last post thats the tittle tattle i spoke about earliar and with all due respect dont whant to get involved in

Gentlemen

That's the only one you could pick out?! They may also actually be 'gentle men'.

Not really about tittle tattle or whatever you want to call it, I had a hard job understanding and reading what you've typed, not one for pulling people on this kind of thing but man that was bloody hard work.

Agree, in the 9 games he played at the end of the season, he did well in imo, especially considering he came in at the back end of the season and he hadn't ever played with the majority of the players, so he did well to slot in. Can't quite get my head around some one saying, if he isn't good enough for Leeds he isn't good enough for us, pretty ridiculous thing to say and tbh some people need a reality check if that's what they believe. He only left Leeds because better players were in front of him and he wasn't getting game time, losing fitness playing for the reserves. Doesn't mean he isn't a good enough player for us, who's offers more value because he's quite versatile. With a full injury free pre-season behind him I reckon he'll have good season for us.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion but just like those slagging off and booing Tim Smith earlier in the season, this one doesn't make sense either.

Ok then but seeing as it's the season of goodwill please take this post in the jest it is intended

It's a fair point try scorer. There is a lot of tittle tattle on here that is not for everyone.
Your opinion is valued, its just that I don't agree.

Hope we find middle ground somewhere.
You are in the lucky position of either being proved right and able to take the high ground or proved wrong and Smith (and Wakefield) will be doing better than expected.

i ceartainly will call a truce on the subject. And i agree with shifty when i read it again it was hard work but not right used to the keys. If i had known the teacher was watching i would certainly have tried harder

Smith was a player that I couldn't stand during his first spell at Leeds because he was a bit of a wind up merchant but he had great vision and did some great things for Leeds in attack. Given the chance to sign him then I would have snapped him up even with his attitude, so having got him now at what should be the prime of his career the thought of what he can do for us excites me, so I'll make a prediction and stand to be shot down.
Given a good pre season with clogger on his back and a fair run at centre next season he will be the best English centre in SL.

I'm gonna stick my neck out and back you on that, there isn't any out there better than clogger

Let's not forget Watkins though eh