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Quote: Gotcha "If you are going to quote someboy, then do it properly. I never said what you have put. I said "way above the quality of player you currently have".'"


Yet my statement still stands even with you added,your logic trying to justify that Smith is "way above" in terms of quality of anyplayer we currently have is wide of the mark.Smith is a competent utility back,but to suggest he is "way above the quality" than say Paul Aiton is quite frankly absurd.

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You dont have a clue what you are talking about, have you ever seen Aiton play? The guy is quality and i would`nt be suprised to see a couple of top clubs showing interest in him.

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Quote: Gotcha "Dear me. He is way above the quality of any other player you have. Does it really matter which position he plays?

Excellent fullback, better winger than you currently have, and before he went to union was when he played centre and certainly looked better there than what you currently have. Can also switch to half back or hooker if required.

He deserved to get away from Leeds, because he is better than a reserve, and I hope he shows you exactly what he has in his locker.'"


Lets not kid ourselves.

He has been all those things in the past, but in the last 2 seasons at best he's been average. The reason he has found himself in the reserves is because he hasn't performed good enough and BJB, Hardaker, and Watkins have all overtaken him.

The ball is in his court. This is a good opportunity for him, and if he takes it and regains some form he might have a future at Leeds. If not, I think McDermott will have finally lost patience with him, he put his confidence in him at the start of the year and for a period in the middle by playing him ahead of BJB, but put simply, Smith was awfull.

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He had an offer on the table from Cronulla, And if you go by what the aussies were saying on the NRL board many of them belive he was up to scratch to play NRL rugby. The guy captains his country - Lee smith can`t get into a mid league superleague side? Based on that you dont have a clue what you are talking about. Your argument makes no sense what so ever anyway

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Quote: Gotcha "Dear me. He is way above the quality of any other player you have. Does it really matter which position he plays?

Excellent fullback, better winger than you currently have, and before he went to union was when he played centre and certainly looked better there than what you currently have. Can also switch to half back or hooker if required.

He deserved to get away from Leeds, because he is better than a reserve, and I hope he shows you exactly what he has in his locker.'"


Better than Aiton, Smith, Ali (remember him) and a few more - give your thick head a shake. However he is a very good player and still fairly young.

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Quote: vastman "Better than Aiton, Smith, Ali (remember him) and a few more - give your thick head a shake. However he is a very good player and still fairly young.'"


eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif Gotcha obviously hasnt seen enough of Aiton and must have forgotten all about the Legend that is Big Ali .

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If true , could be a shrewd signing.

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Quote: Gotcha "Just a minor point, before you get so defensive you curl up in a furry little ball. Where have I talked about Amor not been good enough to compete with those players?

I simply said Smith is a better quality player than you have. One of your posters brought up Amor, and I still never critisised him. I just pointed out that by his logic of Smith been released by Leeds, then did not the same happen with Amor.'"


Is this the kind of toilet that makes you a celeb on the Leeds board, or are you just as unpopular there after 10,000 posts as you've made yourself here, in just one afternoon?

My personal observation is that Lee Smith is lacking fitness and appears to have a poor attitude; I guess being loaned to lowly Wakefield will either make or break him - it's certainly within his gift to be a great player, but he has some work to do - I hope he does it.

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Quote: Teddy Picker "Lets not kid ourselves.

He has been all those things in the past, but in the last 2 seasons at best he's been average. The reason he has found himself in the reserves is because he hasn't performed good enough and BJB, Hardaker, and Watkins have all overtaken him.

The ball is in his court. This is a good opportunity for him, and if he takes it and regains some form he might have a future at Leeds. If not, I think McDermott will have finally lost patience with him, he put his confidence in him at the start of the year and for a period in the middle by playing him ahead of BJB, but put simply, Smith was awfull.'"


Nice to hear from the level headed Rhino's fans.

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Why do you lot keep comparing forwards to backs. Are you really that limited in knowledge of the game?

For what it's worth once again you are using an example to try and make a point which completely contradicts your main point.

On the one hand we have Lee Smith allegedly not good enough for you, and not as good as other players you have. The argument been that he can't get in the Leeds team and Leeds have released him.

On the other hand we now have two players mentioned as better quality, Amor and now Ali, who coincidentally were deemed not good enough by Leeds and were released.

Which one is it?

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Quote: Gotcha "Just a minor point, before you get so defensive you curl up in a furry little ball. Where have I talked about Amor not been good enough to compete with those players?

I simply said Smith is a better quality player than you have. One of your posters brought up Amor, and I still never critisised him. I just pointed out that by his logic of Smith been released by Leeds, then did not the same happen with Amor.'"


Sorrt Mrs Smith, but you said that he was better than ALL of our current players and yet he is apparently not good enough to fill in accross any of the Rhinos back line.
I still maintain that you shoul be happy with your front row.
FWIW Smith is ok, but he is not at presnt a stand out player or, even the Mighty, Mighty, Rhinos, would not allow him out on loan.
This has been done to give the lad some first team rugby, nothing more.
We're glad to take him but, you do seem to over-rate your player and you were a little short on factual back up about Aiton. icon_surprised.gifops:

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Quote: Gotcha "Why do you lot keep comparing forwards to backs. Are you really that limited in knowledge of the game?

For what it's worth once again you are using an example to try and make a point which completely contradicts your main point.

On the one hand we have Lee Smith allegedly not good enough for you, and not as good as other players you have. The argument been that he can't get in the Leeds team and Leeds have released him.

On the other hand we now have two players mentioned as better quality, Amor and now Ali, who coincidentally were deemed not good enough by Leeds and were released.

Which one is it?'"


If you wish to argue with your fellow Leeds fans please return back to your own board.

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Quote: Theboyem "First question would have to be why???'"


my thoughts too icon_confused.gif

it would only beneficial if we had something to aim for in winning

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Quote: Gotcha "Then I will take it back then. On the proviso that it is accepted that my 88 year old gran would have a shot at playing for Papua New Guinea. Granted, captain might be beyond though.'"



Think Aiton scored in the England v PNG game and they nearly upset the odds against in this game containing several Leeds stars at the time. Score was 32-22 so PNG not as bad as you think.

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