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| Did any of us realy see a good season this time round with the players we managed to scrape up and play for the club.Lets face it who in the world would have Jeremy Smith in the side apart from a side in desperate times.If we all hand on heart tell the truth we all thought we would be crying in our beer at the end of the season and would be going out of the top flight.I thought once the RL had told Halifax to put a bid for SL in that both Wakey and Cas would be the ones to go and the agenda of getting the clubs to merge would have been won.I could not see a single victory with this side this season but lo and behold they did win.Yes it would be great to win the last 3 games seeing who the clubs are but we have next season to look forward to and I know its great to have the bragging rights but cant see that happening.I cant understand Kears logic in who he picks and I would give the young guns a bench slot at least and the one good thing is a lot of the players not performing wont be at BV next season.Role on next season its a new start to a new dawning.
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| The fact still remains, we need to score points today. Who really believes Smith/Lee will pose any problems/create anything to bother the Cas defence ? (other than maybe a kick on the last tackle bouncing off the upright). Hope I'm proven wrong today but the writing looks well and truly on the wall.
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| After watching James Davey in the reserves a couple of weeks ago at Hull KR i cant believe he isnt getting a game. Looked a real livewire to me and whilst i appreciate it was at a far lower level of rugby than Super League i reckon he could have given Castlefords currently bashed up pack plenty to think about.
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| Quote: les-goose "Did any of us realy see a good season this time round with the players we managed to scrape up and play for the club.Lets face it who in the world would have Jeremy Smith in the side apart from a side in desperate times.If we all hand on heart tell the truth we all thought we would be crying in our beer at the end of the season and would be going out of the top flight.I thought once the RL had told Halifax to put a bid for SL in that both Wakey and Cas would be the ones to go and the agenda of getting the clubs to merge would have been won.I could not see a single victory with this side this season but lo and behold they did win.Yes it would be great to win the last 3 games seeing who the clubs are but we have next season to look forward to and I know its great to have the bragging rights but cant see that happening.I cant understand Kears logic in who he picks and I would give the young guns a bench slot at least and the one good thing is a lot of the players not performing wont be at BV next season.Role on next season its a new start to a new dawning.'"
We were all "happy" early in the season, with our group of youngsters and mis-fits rolling their sleeves up and having a go, regardless of the result and no, we didnt expect much in regards to final leage position. However, I have never witnessed such negative non-attackin RL in my lifetime.
Relying on "luck" from the last play has been our only "tactic" all season and the current squad, whatever people may think, is capable of much, much, more.
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| Quote: R.B.A "After watching James Davey in the reserves a couple of weeks ago at Hull KR i cant believe he isnt getting a game. Looked a real livewire to me and whilst i appreciate it was at a far lower level of rugby than Super League i reckon he could have given Castlefords currently bashed up pack plenty to think about.'"
Davey is another one that wonders what
He's got to do to get a regular game. Surprised he hasn't gone by now.
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| Quote: Trinitythefuture "Davey is another one that wonders what
He's got to do to get a regular game. Surprised he hasn't gone by now.'"
Yes not seen him have a bad game in the first team. Way Kear treats some of the younger players its a good job hes off or a few of them would have been.
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| Quote: J.T "I would be more concerned about their judgement if they just let Morrison or Dury run it for a couple of weeks. As has already been suggested to send Kear on gardening leave would look rather shabby and be a tad unfair to Kear as far as I'm concerned.
If this is the only negative you kind find with Glover and Elston at the moment then it would appear that you are clutching at straws. The season ticket deal looks like a belter and the stadium plans are going ahead it would seem so Glover looks to be putting his money where his mouth is but you seem to be finding it hard to give him any credit at all. I know it's early doors and nobody is asking people to bow at his feet, though some are, but he deserves a bit more credit than some seem prepared to give.'"
Think you may have missed my point. I don't think Kear is deliberately getting it wrong. I think he wants to stay and see it through, but being Kear he wants to prove a point. The problem IMO is he can't do that because he's lost the team.
I fear but I may be wrong that AG who is new to RL wants Kear to see out his notice as he would in most other industries. But this is RL and it doesn't work. Kear is now a liability and it will show on the gates.
We now have a situation where Kear is the instant scapegoat for everything. When in fact half the team are tossing it off and they know Kear can't or wont do anything about it. He's a lame duck President.
Have to say I'm very surprised at your OTT Glover is beyond reproach comments when he most certainly isn't. I thought you more savvy than to go down that route. I'm not looking for points to pull him up on, he simply provided an important one IMO. Why the assumption that every less than glowing comment regarding the new owner is an act of betrayal is beyond me.
I should imagine AG is so weighed down at present with sycophantic bandwagon jumpers he would be relieved when the odd one occasionally got off his back and walked by themselves.
Good day to you.
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| Kear bloody likes us to give Cas a game that is for sure! shop window or not!
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| Quote: vastman "Think you may have missed my point. I don't think Kear is deliberately getting it wrong. I think he wants to stay and see it through, but being Kear he wants to prove a point. The problem IMO is he can't do that because he's lost the team.
I fear but I may be wrong that AG who is new to RL wants Kear to see out his notice as he would in most other industries. But this is RL and it doesn't work. Kear is now a liability and it will show on the gates.
We now have a situation where Kear is the instant scapegoat for everything. When in fact half the team are tossing it off and they know Kear can't or wont do anything about it. He's a lame duck President.
Have to say I'm very surprised at your OTT Glover is beyond reproach comments when he most certainly isn't. I thought you more savvy than to go down that route. I'm not looking for points to pull him up on, he simply provided an important one IMO. Why the assumption that every less than glowing comment regarding the new owner is an act of betrayal is beyond me.
I should imagine AG is so weighed down at present with sycophantic bandwagon jumpers he would be relieved when the odd one occasionally got off his back and walked by themselves.
Good day to you.'"
Have to say, I don't know how you've come to that conclusion in bold, from what J.T has put.
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| Could not believe it when Hendo was named in the centres. Hes a trier but he has no pace and no rugby brain.
Cas exploited his lack of pace twice in the first half to score and then in second half he passed it sraight to Tongia when he should have run it on and drawn the defender then passed it. Tongia may well have scored then.
Also don't know why Kear took Tongia off, he made a couple of mistakes granted, but he made some good defensive plays and always looked dangerous when running the ball out.
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "Could not believe it when Hendo was named in the centres. Hes a trier but he has no pace and no rugby brain.
Cas exploited his lack of pace twice in the first half to score and then in second half he passed it sraight to Tongia when he should have run it on and drawn the defender then passed it. Tongia may well have scored then.
Also don't know why Kear took Tongia off, he made a couple of mistakes granted, but he made some good defensive plays and always looked dangerous when running the ball out.'"
You can't slag Henderson off on here. He's bigger than Jesus on this forum.
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| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "You can't slag Henderson off on here. He's bigger than Jesus on this forum.'"
I ain't slagging him off everyone knows his limitations - I was questioning Kear for playing him at centre when you take the obvious lack of pace and rugby brain into account.
Next year Hendo should not be anywhere near the squad if we are to progress, but for the remainder of this, he should be a replacement forward only.
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "I ain't slagging him off everyone knows his limitations - I was questioning Kear for playing him at centre when you take the obvious lack of pace and rugby brain into account.
Next year Hendo should not be anywhere near the squad if we are to progress, but for the remainder of this, he should be a replacement forward only.'"
His limitations are he's gash. Although I do think Kear clearly rallied the team tonight, we've nothing to play for yet the performance tonight was excellent. People say all they want is effort, well there was plenty of that tonight. In my opinion the best team lost.
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| Quote: vastman "
Have to say I'm very surprised at your OTT Glover is beyond reproach comments when he most certainly isn't. I thought you more savvy than to go down that route. I'm not looking for points to pull him up on, he simply provided an important one IMO. Why the assumption that every less than glowing comment regarding the new owner is an act of betrayal is beyond me.
I should imagine AG is so weighed down at present with sycophantic bandwagon jumpers he would be relieved when the odd one occasionally got off his back and walked by themselves.
Good day to you.'"
I'm not sure I suggested that Glover was beyond reproach but I do think you have to give credit where it is due. Similarly to your point about negative comments being seen as a betrayal you can't lump everyone who makes a positive comment about Glover together as sycophantic bandwagon jumpers. A while ago you said that Glover had done nothing yet that the previous regime hadn't in some form or another well to my mind he now has with the season ticket offer and will do when/if the ground improvements happen. I don't wish this to be a Ted v Glover debate as I have massive respect for what Ted did in keeping us in SL for so long but I do get the feeling that you are best being a little over cautious regarding Glover. I know it's the Wakey way and our natural response is to be wary when good things appear to be happening but I'm prepared to go with the flow on this one and hope that Glover turns out to be our 'knight in shining armour'!
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| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "His limitations are he's gash. Although I do think Kear clearly rallied the team tonight, we've nothing to play for yet the performance tonight was excellent. People say all they want is effort, well there was plenty of that tonight. In my opinion the best team lost.'"
But not brain dead like you.
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