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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I am not a member of the BAME community so don’t know how they are treated but many of you appear to be quite happy to ridicule their movement. I note you obviously hold the white lives matter movement to a lower standard because you do not ridicule their demonstration at the Churchill’s statue giving the nazi salute or urinating against a plaque for a fallen police officer.'"
Not many people, including myself are denouncing the Black lives Matter section. What most people including myself object to is the Black Lives Movement. This is a dangerous far left movement, with disturbing ambitions. Don’t just take my word for it, vist the Black Lives Movement’s web site.
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Not many people, including myself are denouncing the Black lives Matter section. What most people including myself object to is the Black Lives Movement. This is a dangerous far left movement, with disturbing ambitions. Don’t just take my word for it, vist the Black Lives Movement’s web site.'"
What disturbing ambitions?
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| Quote: PopTart "What disturbing ambitions?'"
Can’t find the right link now, but go - - - - - - - edited---------it’s a 25 minute video, please watch it all. Then let me know what you think.
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Can’t find the right link now, but go to YouTube “Mike asks black lives activist if they are proud to be British” it’s a 25 minute video, please watch it all. Then let me know what you think.'"
That one guy doesn’t speak for all - he even says so himself!
As for Mike Graham, well...
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| Quote: Willzay "That one guy doesn’t speak for all - he even says so himself!
As for Mike Graham, well...'"
It only takes one person to plant and grow a dangerous idea. That’s one of the reasons we have a democracy, if the majority of voters don’t like the idea, then the idea becomes withered.
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Can’t find the right link now, but go to YouTube “Mike asks black lives activist if they are proud to be British” it’s a 25 minute video, please watch it all. Then let me know what you think.'"
Nah sorry. You claim that the group are dangerous but can't give any evidence apart from one interview on YouTube. That's not really fair is it.
Also, you can't use links to YouTube I'm afraid. AUP.
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "It only takes one person to plant and grow a dangerous idea. That’s one of the reasons we have a democracy, if the majority of voters don’t like the idea, then the idea becomes withered.'"
So which idea was the dangerous one?
What you said was: "What most people including myself object to is the Black Lives Movement. This is a dangerous far left movement, with disturbing ambitions"
But its gone from the movement having dangerous ambitions to one guys idea.
He is pretty badly trying to support his cause by ignoring anything that went wrong and blaming the police for everything. Can't see that getting much support. He even says it himself.
The defunding of the police is something started in the US by people upset by the treatment they receive. I understand it but it's never going to happen, mainly because it's a ridiculous idea.
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| INOUT Quote: PopTart "Nah sorry. You claim that the group are dangerous but can't give any evidence apart from one interview on YouTube. That's not really fair is it.
Also, you can't use links to YouTube I'm afraid. AUP.'"
Garry McFarlane is apparently speaking for the BLM, was there anything in that interview he said, that you could agree with. He denied BLM assaults on the police, attacks on statues and the Cenotaph. He wants to defund the police and let the community police the streets. Blames inequality for black on black knife killing, legalise all drugs, He wants to introduce a 1917 style Russian revolution (that went well for the people didn’t it) he doesn’t see himself as British, he says he’s an Internationalist, whatever that is. There’s lot’s of other weird stuff I’ve left out. My opinion is, there is plenty of evidence on that video to suggest the people in that group are dangerous.
As for links to YouTube, I’m aware of AUP, therefore I’ve not put any onto this forum. Is it against AUP rules, to suggest people look for a topic on YouTube themselves.
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| Quote: PopTart "So which idea was the dangerous one?
What you said was
Well I hope we can a least agree to disagree.
Good night PopTart.
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| Legalising drugs wouldn't be too bad a thing if you could regulate them and tax them. It'd be quite a good earner for the treasury. Look at fags and booze. The quality would also improve as you'd get less people cutting the stuff with cleaning products! Might also see less hospital admissions and deaths.
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| Quote: King Street Cat "Legalising drugs wouldn't be too bad a thing if you could regulate them and tax them. It'd be quite a good earner for the treasury. Look at fags and booze. The quality would also improve as you'd get less people cutting the stuff with cleaning products! Might also see less hospital admissions and deaths.'"
How many people have died and are still dying from the effect of fags and booze, these two problems alone, cost the NHS millions of pounds a year, legalise drugs, flood the streets with them, you may well overwhelm the NHS, more than the current pandemic. As for contraband booze and fags, much of this is contaminated and causes deaths, same would happen with drugs, plenty have already died from contaminated drugs. So, Alcohol and Tobacco are legal, but that doesn’t stop counterfeiting, same would apply to drugs.
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| Quote: King Street Cat "Legalising drugs wouldn't be too bad a thing if you could regulate them and tax them. It'd be quite a good earner for the treasury. Look at fags and booze. The quality would also improve as you'd get less people cutting the stuff with cleaning products! Might also see less hospital admissions and deaths.'"
You can legalise drugs as much as you can but it’s what the dregs do to obtain these. Robbing, mugging GBH, these so called people will never change trust me I see these sort every day.
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "It only takes one person to plant and grow a dangerous idea. That’s one of the reasons we have a democracy, if the majority of voters don’t like the idea, then the idea becomes withered.'"
I actually agree with what you say, the problem with people with extreme views have ideas which can be dangerous, but that’s no difference if there left wing or right wing views. Would you agree that the likes of Tommy Robinson and the BNP also hold views which are dangerous ?
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| Quote: King Street Cat "Legalising drugs wouldn't be too bad a thing if you could regulate them and tax them. It'd be quite a good earner for the treasury. Look at fags and booze. The quality would also improve as you'd get less people cutting the stuff with cleaning products! Might also see less hospital admissions and deaths.'"
Legalising drugs would be a disaster unless legalised world wide. Cocaine for instance how many murders and how much misery do you think it causes from growth to the streets of Europe and how much corruption does it drive?
Heroin from the regions of Afghanistan and beyond tell me what the cost has has been for our country both in military lives and the streets of thew UK driving crime etc.
Synthetic drugs made to look like legit pills and hook young kids fueling the criminal economy driving money laundering etc.
Legalisation for an end user its been covered on here just like fags and booze those that couldnt give a toss for human life would still expose it for profit putting people at risk. If the the people here doing drugs espewcially coke that thinks its OK then think wider at what you are driving double standards if you call it recreational just think what it has cost in human misery as you snort a line!
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| Quote: REDWHITEANDBLUE "Legalising drugs would be a disaster unless legalised world wide.'"
It would have to be legalised worldwide, fully regulated, controlled, taxed, and almost become an economy itself. It's pie in the sky stuff, really. But it might eradicate some of the issues we currently have with crime, murder, slavery, smuggling etc.
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