At the beginning of the season I had nagging doubts this season, last year some of the big names didn't fire, this season they are. Have we been Sussed? Last season no one expected us to play as we did. In my humble opinion the biggest loss for me has been John Kear, I've no idea what he did at the club but he was always a sharp cookie and we can't fail to miss him. In a perfect world money wise I'd like to see a Danny Brought type of playmaker brought in, someone who can move us round the pitch and can kick the opposition to death.

Have to agree with Adam Harrison Jowitt as a fullback is not our answer. To leave MCB out of a squad is scandolous Topou wants a ball of his own Miller is in & out of games he never takes the game by the scruff of the neck Finn is very slow & predictable never creates a gap for anyone. Hirst can't catch a ball. This all leads to one thing, I think Chris Chester has done as much as he canfor Wakey, He's now come up against a brick wall, His knowledge is not quite up to the standard of taking us any further. At this moment in time he's not sure which players to play & when. It's not a criticism of the guy but people do have limitations & I think he's reached his. After all he is still an inexperienced coach. last year he had help from a very experienced coach in JK & Some of the top clubs weren't firing on all cylinders this year they are & we haven't got the knowledge how to break things down & how to win games. I know certain members of this forum will end up calling me a troll for being honest but if any of the things I have said are untrue have a look at yourselves.

We get rid of Chester and we're back to square 1, years of under performing. At least with Chester we stand a chance of building a good team over time. We don't have the luxury of being able to afford a world class coach

Max Jowitt is not a problem atm, Scott Grix is the recognised FB and hopefully when the time comes to take over from Grix, Jowitt will be that much more experienced with more game time whether that's sharing with Grix or on loan in the championship.

Who do you drop for MCB? You could play Arundel in the centre and put Topou on the wing, MCB can't get past Johnstone and Jones Bishop so by putting Topou into the mix will make it even harder for him, How is MCB going to make a difference without the ball, I'm sure that once the wingers get the service they need the tries will come choose who they are.

Not sure why your having a pop at Miller and Finn when they've been as good as anybody else, as for Hirst he's played as good as any other prop this season, but because he dropped the ball twice last night he suddenly can't catch a ball, and because of this Chester has now run out of ideas' really!!.

Like most things in life it's a learning curve and I'm sure being a super league coach isn't any different, if as you say he's missing Kear and I don't doubt it for one minute then you should give the man a bit of slack and give him time to adjust to not having Kear's input, and by your own admission those clubs that weren't "firing on all cylinders" last year but are this season then surely that makes the task even harder, one other thing fwiw you just can't go into a shop and order a tailor made SL coach, you have to grow your own and give em time to mature with age, that's if you've got the patience which you don't seem to have.

Still think we have the quality of players at the club to do better.
I have not enough knowledge to put my finger on the problem and wouldn't want to single out an individual for criticism BUT something is fundamentally wrong. We have superb finishers on the wings but I cannot recollect seeing many passes going out wide - Why? Part of it I think is that we are very slow at the ruck. We don't seem to have urgency.
Another fault that stands out a mile is seemingly submitting to the inevitable and standing back and allowing the opposition to run at us instead of getting up to them and getting in their face.
As for the size of the pack, at the end of the day it's how big your heart is not how long your legs are.

Think the criticism of Topou is unfair. A centre is supposed to create space for a winger. What is he supposed to do? Just pass it to Johnstone and say "off you go", leaving Tom to be bullied into touch? Bill is supposed to advance himself, to put himself into space, and then slip it to Johnstone steaming up on his left.

The problem has been that the defences have been getting across and not giving Bill any room to play with.

I agree with Jinjer that last year was a slight false dawn. Warrington were unexpectedly poor. Saints didn't fire properly until Holbrook arrived, meaning that we were able to get higher than our resources should have allowed.

This year, we are seventh place almost half-way through the season with three winnable games to come. The teams above us are the ones you'd expect to be above us. We've got some wins when we haven't played that well. We've had some closes losses against good teams. We've had a couple of bad games. I remember the current champions had a couple of shockers last year.

Let's see where we are in June, with harder grounds and some winnable games behind us.

Ridiculous comment

Let's all calm down eh? I reckon the next few games will see some wins

I am pleased to see someone with some positivity

Totally OTT

WELL SAID. Some utterly ridiculous over reaction going on on here. MPG my a**e

Can't you be happy with your own side without coming on our site and being a ....... Kindly go shove your comment up your mendahose jungle

we are in the positions were we should be at the moment and we have to be happy with that!

again as long as we beat the teams below us in round 2 we will be ok.....for top 8

but we need to be playing a hell of a lot better to do that- I am still worried at this stage

ITS A MUST WIN THIS WEEK