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The OP is on the wind up - no one will put 42 past Leeds this season, let alone WT.

But - they do have some vulnerability with injuries and such, so that could be a leveller; although missing Big Dave is a blow - he's been brilliant this season and really causes problems for defenders.

On a slight tangent - I had a conversation with a lad who made his 1st team debut for Shudds last weekend; he was defending against Watkins and described it as "a total f****ing nightmare" - he said he's got it all - quick, great feet, and strong as an ox; nothing we didn't already know, but interesting to hear it from the horses mouth.

Anyhow - if we can pull it off, this will be a really valuable win; we need to be taking some of these scalps to keep us in the mix.

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Quote: bren2k "The OP is on the wind up - no one will put 42 past Leeds this season, let alone WT.

But - they do have some vulnerability with injuries and such, so that could be a leveller; although missing Big Dave is a blow - he's been brilliant this season and really causes problems for defenders.

On a slight tangent - I had a conversation with a lad who made his 1st team debut for Shudds last weekend; he was defending against Watkins and described it as "a total f****ing nightmare" - he said he's got it all - quick, great feet, and strong as an ox; nothing we didn't already know, but interesting to hear it from the horses mouth.

Anyhow - if we can pull it off, this will be a really valuable win; we need to be taking some of these scalps to keep us in the mix.'"


Should I presume you're on the wind up as well?

My opinion is my opinion, did anyone see us putting 62-0 on Wigan??

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Quote: bren2k "

On a slight tangent - I had a conversation with a lad who made his 1st team debut for Shudds last weekend; he was defending against Watkins and described it as "a total f****ing nightmare" - he said he's got it all - quick, great feet, and strong as an ox; nothing we didn't already know, but interesting to hear it from the horses mouth.

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Watkins has started to show again somewhere near what he is capable of and had a decent world cup. Lets see if he can shed his tendency to disappear when the going gets tough. Look forward to Bill T's battle with him on Sunday.

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Quote: Trinity18 "Should I presume you're on the wind up as well?

My opinion is my opinion, did anyone see us putting 62-0 on Wigan??'"


If you like - and no, but then I don't think that the Leeds camp has contracted bubonic plague, so we won't have that in our favour as we apparently did against Wigan...

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Quote: bren2k "If you like - and no, but then I don't think that the Leeds camp has contracted bubonic plague, so we won't have that in our favour as we apparently did against Wigan...'"


Both years?

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Quote: Trinity18 "Both years?'"


I was being facetious - I don't attribute that win to Wigan's mystery illness; that was Shaun Wane's excuse, not mine!

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What's the opinion on the halfback position? Anyone warmed to Hampshire after only game at half back for us or does Finny return?

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I personally think the time has come where you have to weigh up the positives/negatives of having Finn in the 13. His in game kicking game has been nothing short of rubbish so far this year and his goal kicking just about okay. He's got it upstairs but it is starting to hurt us in attack with how slow he is physically in my opinion. I think it's time we started looking to the future and blooding Hampshire - the boy needs to be getting games and I think he deserves a shot all things considered.

I'd also be picking Batchelor/Crowther over Horo from what I've seen. Not that Horo doesn't lack effort. I can't fault his effort but he doesn't particularly stand out in attack and he's a liability in terms of discipline in defence.

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Quote: bren2k "The OP is on the wind up - no one will put 42 past Leeds this season, let alone WT.

But - they do have some vulnerability with injuries and such, so that could be a leveller; although missing Big Dave is a blow - he's been brilliant this season and really causes problems for defenders.

On a slight tangent - I had a conversation with a lad who made his 1st team debut for Shudds last weekend; he was defending against Watkins and described it as "a total f****ing nightmare" - he said he's got it all - quick, great feet, and strong as an ox; nothing we didn't already know, but interesting to hear it from the horses mouth.

Anyhow - if we can pull it off, this will be a really valuable win; we need to be taking some of these scalps to keep us in the mix.'"


Mr Hewitt's lad by any chance?

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Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "I personally think the time has come where you have to weigh up the positives/negatives of having Finn in the 13. His in game kicking game has been nothing short of rubbish so far this year and his goal kicking just about okay. He's got it upstairs but it is starting to hurt us in attack with how slow he is physically in my opinion. I think it's time we started looking to the future and blooding Hampshire - the boy needs to be getting games and I think he deserves a shot all things considered.

I'd also be picking Batchelor/Crowther over Horo from what I've seen. Not that Horo doesn't lack effort. I can't fault his effort but he doesn't particularly stand out in attack and he's a liability in terms of discipline in defence.'"


I think that's a fair assessment, although the here and now is the most important, one of the keys in the future for hopefully this side to progress, is how to replace Finn & Grix eventually, they can't go on forever obviously, and I think Hampshire & Jowitt deserve a crack to see if they can be the ones' to take their places long term. I would like to see both of them maybe play in at least half of the games.

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Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "Mr Hewitt's lad by any chance?'"


Who I deliberately didn't name.

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I thought Horo had his best game for us so far at Hull, likewise Pauli Pauli. I would expect both to be in against Leeds.

I would go for MCB but expect BJB to come back in.

Wouldnt be surprised to see Arona given a week off and Annakin/ Baldwinson to take his spot for this one.

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Quote: bren2k "Who I deliberately didn't name.'"


Oh apologies. I didn't realise this was top secret, sensitive information. Especially, when it could be identified as easily as it was.

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Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "Oh apologies. I didn't realise this was top secret, sensitive information. Especially, when it could be identified as easily as it was.


It's not - but my assumption was that anyone who knew, would know, so it didn't seem necessary to name the player; the point was about Watkins and the threat he presents for Leeds.

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Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "I personally think the time has come where you have to weigh up the positives/negatives of having Finn in the 13. His in game kicking game has been nothing short of rubbish so far this year and his goal kicking just about okay. He's got it upstairs but it is starting to hurt us in attack with how slow he is physically in my opinion. I think it's time we started looking to the future and blooding Hampshire - the boy needs to be getting games and I think he deserves a shot all things considered.

I'd also be picking Batchelor/Crowther over Horo from what I've seen. Not that Horo doesn't lack effort. I can't fault his effort but he doesn't particularly stand out in attack and he's a liability in terms of discipline in defence.'"


I agree with everything you have said there but I would not be throwing Crowther into the mix, championship standard for me although is still young enough to prove me wrong. Can only see the same happening with him that happened with Kyle Trout, on the books as a lad and loaned out every season with the occasional first team appearance.

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