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| Quote: Fordy "Well I've just watched it on SL Full Time and for me he's lucky to get away with a Grade B - It was a shocker and quite deliberate.
Have you seen it yet? Still think it wasn't that bad???'"
I haven't seen it yet. At the game I wasn't convinced it was a bad one but if I've got it wrong I'll say so. The Wilkin one was stupid from him and he deserves a ban.
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| No send of this morning for Storm player with dumping Newcastle player on his head.
Turns out Alex McKinnon has fractures to C4& C5 vertebrae, not sure on spinal cord damage yet.
Cameron Smith was heard complaing to ref blaming McKinnon for tucking his head in.
An awful looking tackle that has turned out much worse.
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| Quote: Fordy "Well I've just watched it on SL Full Time and for me he's lucky to get away with a Grade B - It was a shocker and quite deliberate.
Have you seen it yet? Still think it wasn't that bad???'"
I've just watched it again. Looks bad. My comments yesterday now look a tad silly thanks to Mr.Amor. Quite clearly deserves a ban.
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| If this blatant, cynical and dangerous attack of the head doesn't constitute a red card then I have no idea what does. It was as bad as Morley against the Aussies. I like Amor but that swinging arm was indefensible and I have no idea how Roby failed to show him the red card. Spineless.
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| Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "If he got put on report for the tackle on Lomax, I think if he had gone any lower, he would have broken his fingers on the ground.'"
Not quite!
And to those suggesting Lomax milked a penalty: he has yet to do that in the whole of his Saints first team career so it's just ridiculous. He clearly hit his head when he slipped: his feet shot from underneath him, which no doubt at first sight looked like a big whack from Lautiti but which in fact was Lomax just going splat on the floor. If you hit your head on the floor without any means of breaking your fall you will be dazed. Hence he took a little time to get up.
As for Amor's shot: that was awful. I have no idea why he wasn't sent off. I didn't know his reputation previously but I hope that isn't the start of something we would rather not have. We have enough to deal with in Jon Wilkin who has now left us without an organising halfback of any description for the most important game of our season so far plus Leeds. I haven't seen Wilkin's tackle but I can imagine it because I saw the one he was banned for last year.
Amor is eligible for EGP and Saints usually claim it and move on. But Wilkin isn't eligible as he was banned 11 months ago and so he'll get two matches. If his tackle was anything like Amor's then he deserves it.
However, us fans don't.
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| Seen super league full time now and yes amors was a shocker.I never thought the lad had that side to his game. If ali's was a high tackle we may as well all give up on the game.
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| Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "If this blatant, cynical and dangerous attack of the head doesn't constitute a red card then I have no idea what does. It was as bad as Morley against the Aussies. I like Amor but that swinging arm was indefensible and I have no idea how Roby failed to show him the red card. Spineless.'"
Totally agree.
Amor didn't enjoy being pushed just after the ptb and responded with a "haymaker".
Straight red, no messing, all day long, but not at Wakefield with a clown reffing the game.
As far as the Ali challenge goes, what else was he supposed to do, Lomax slipped into contact.
I wasn't happy on Sunday but, second viewing is even worse.
There should be plenty of apologies from our friends in St Helens who tried to defend Amor and Lomax recovery was of biblical proportions, it's a miracle !
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| The referee should be banned along with Amor and Wilkin. He was an absolute joke especially not sending off Amor when he was in close proximity to the punch being thrown.
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| Quote: 1873 "No send of this morning for Storm player with dumping Newcastle player on his head.
Turns out Alex McKinnon has fractures to C4& C5 vertebrae, not sure on spinal cord damage yet.
Cameron Smith was heard complaing to ref blaming McKinnon for tucking his head in.
An awful looking tackle that has turned out much worse.'"
Just seen this and its nothing short of sickening. Horrendous position for someone to be put in. And even with all the officials and video replay im amazed how nobody was sent off.
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| Quote: asmadasa "The referee should be banned along with Amor and Wilkin. He was an absolute joke especially not sending off Amor when he was in close proximity to the punch being thrown.
Best idea so far but we both know that won't happen
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Not quite!
And to those suggesting Lomax milked a penalty
On the Lomax injury I completely agree. I don't see Lomax as the kind of player to milk a penalty and he clearly did hit his head. The only issue was with the referee that couldn't see that the impact was nothing to do with Ali. There was no where for him to go and there was a possibility of him injuring himself as well with a player falling towards his knees.
Amor, I disappointed with him for that one. I saw it quite close live and now on replay and both showed to me he clearly aimed his shot.....and was right on target. He was under the refs nose too. Poor decision by both Amor and Roby (ref)
He didn't show anything like this before so I assume it was a one off. Clearly has an issue with lanky, ginger aussies but I hope he sorts that out of his game quickly.
I was further away for Wilkin's effort but he seemed to have two shots for me. They ddin't cover this in the Sky replay. He hit him high but I could be convinced that it was an accident at speed (though still more than a penalty on the day) but then followed up with a swing while Riley was on the floor. I think Wilkin is a great talent but he would have gone further in the game if he'd left this out of his game imho. He has form all the way through his career for wild tackles. That discipline has hurt him compared to Farrell, Sculthorpe, Sinfield and O'Loughlin who he was competing with but were more disciplined.
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| Wilkin's effort looked pre-meditated to me. He went in with a leading arm and knew what he was doing. For the play to carry on for 2 minutes after just added insult to injury. Amor's was a clear head shot too.
The worst thing about all this on report business is that the team who are the victims never benefit. It will be Leeds benefiting from it next week. The on report system really does need looking at, there are 5 officials on the field, you're not telling me none of them saw the incidents.
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| Didnt have a great view of the Lomax/Ali and Amor/Ryan incidents at the game, thought some of the comments about the incidents on here may have been rose tinted but just seen the highlights.
Slip by Lomax and Ali goes to tackle him but accidentally slaps him round the face as hes going down, Lomax acts like hes just been knocked out. Amor throws a blatant right rook at Ryan from behind and doesnt even get a card.
To add insult to injury Amor only gets a one match ban for blatantly trying to knock someone out, yet Collis gets 2 games for something out of nothing. What a joke, no wonder people say the game is bent towards the 'bigger teams'
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Not quite!
And to those suggesting Lomax milked a penalty I didn't know his reputation previously but I hope that isn't the start of something we would rather not have. We have enough to deal with in Jon Wilkin who has now left us without an organising halfback of any description for the most important game of our season so far plus Leeds. I haven't seen Wilkin's tackle but I can imagine it because I saw the one he was banned for last year.
Amor is eligible for EGP and Saints usually claim it and move on. But Wilkin isn't eligible as he was banned 11 months ago and so he'll get two matches. If his tackle was anything like Amor's then he deserves it.
However, us fans don't.'"
To be honest it seemed completely out of character - I don't recall him reacting like that in all the games he played for us.
Having said that it was blatant and calculated in my opinion and deserving of a higher grade offence than the disciplinary have given it.
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