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| Quote: bellycouldtackle "The same forward thinking business men who have run the SL clubs with a combined loss of 8 million pounds for 2012, why would you give chairmen like Glover a say in what is best for the game. No disrespect to our new chairman MC but he has been in the job for a few weeks only and that gives hin the right to cast a vote on the future of the game ? Keep the chairmen away from any decisions about the game. The game needs a few good people from outside RL to run it. The problem for me is that if I was Trinity Chairman I would vote on what was best for Trinity not on what is best for the game. That said I presume that as Trinity did not walk out that MC is in favour of 2 x 12 and 3 x 8 ( without consulting his customers ). This format would see the end of Trinity as a top flight club as it will only result in us becoming a secong or third tier club.'"
Whilst the clubs racked up substantial losses, the likes of Davy and Leneghan (Wigan may even have made a profit) can afford it due to the money they have made outside of RL. Those losses are part of the business plan, especially at Huddersfield. Right now we have a bloke who nearly killed off Halifax running the game, is it wrong to want someone better at the helm of the sport? I may be wrong but isn't this the primary reasoning behind the walk out, wanting a stronger more commercially savvy RFL who can generate money for the sport. Wood et al have shown they're not up to it.
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| I would've stuck with licensing - I read an interview from Gary Hetherington who said that the sport doesn't have the ability to sustain P+R like the PL does due to not enough money and the fact it doesn't work it RL. Yes it might give clubs like Fev and Fax a chance to play in SL but they would end up being relegated again. Also licensing has seen a lot more young players coming through. Personally I would've increased the competition to 16 teams and more investment from Sky - how on earth is cutting the competition down to 12 or 10 going to help in the long run?
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| Quote: Willzay "I would've stuck with licensing - I read an interview from Gary Hetherington who said that the sport doesn't have the ability to sustain P+R like the PL does due to not enough money and the fact it doesn't work it RL. Yes it might give clubs like Fev and Fax a chance to play in SL but they would end up being relegated again. Also licensing has seen a lot more young players coming through. Personally I would've increased the competition to 16 teams and more investment from Sky - how on earth is cutting the competition down to 12 or 10 going to help in the long run?'"
I would've retained licensing too, but split the top flight into two conferences. Backwards step to increase non fed players and reduce the homegrown requirement.
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| I agree Willzay.
I would also increase to 16,which would increase the number of youngsters coming through.
Reducing to 10 or 8 will surely be perceived nationally and globally as sport withering away.
Clubs who want the reduction are only thinking of their own short term gains and not what is best for the sport in the next 20,30,40 years.
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| Exemption on non feds doesn't bother me so, exemption from relegation does. Either have relegation or don't. It gets messy when exemptions are introduced. Apparently the RFL rightly wouldn't guarantee Trinity a license when Parkin asked the question a few years back. It should be no different now.
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| The exemption from relegation cannot happen IMO. If the RFL agree to this at least one club form the heartlands will suffer. London are trying to dangle a carrot to the RFL promising new investment from the top man at Barnet. If the RFL fall for this stunt we (Tigers and Wakey) might as well step out of the elite competition now.
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| To be frank this is the biggest load of B.S. going...I remember watching boots and all months ago and the RFL stated on there that the changes would be firmed up before the end of the season; Well thats gone and pre season is about to start!!!
I think all the clubs should make a stance, insisting changes to the structure of the league should be made for 2015; giving all involved some notice.
Why is there a constant lack of planning/organisation with both clubs and the RFL...I think some should go back to the community clubs (for ideas) as they are far better organised!!
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| I totally agree with Slugger - rugby league administrators are lifelong committee men with good intentions, but very little know-how; they are inward looking, parochial and cripplingly old-school. Without a change at the top, the sport in the UK is doomed to limp along as a minority interest in the M1-M62 corridor, and to be an object of derision or at best, disinterest, everywhere else.
Personally, I'd go back to basics; break down the existing paradigm and start from a basis of what's good for the game as a whole, and its consumers; if that means that clubs have to be forced to do some things they don't want to, tough titties.
For example, I too would increase the size of the SL to 16 teams and I'd make it a requirement that the U19's are reinstated with effect from the 2015 season. I would also increase the cap to catch up with inflation (at least) and at the same time, make one marquee player exempt, together with generous allowances for club trained youngsters. I'd also introduce a stricter overseas quota and place an upper limit on the number of games a player can participate in during one season, to force coaches to dip into their squad and give young players an opportunity.
And that's just for starters!
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| Quote: "leedsrhinos Chief Executive Gary Hetherington has told @BBCLeeds he wants the #superleague rebels to 'apologise and move on!' '"
Bless him! and he's chief executive of one the strongest clubs in super league, Is there any wonder the sport is in a mess in this country...
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| Quote: Wakefield No 1 "Bless him! and he's chief executive of one the strongest clubs in super league, Is there any wonder the sport is in a mess in this country...'"
And our club wouldn't be in the mess it's in if we'd had someone like him in charge rather than under qualified chancers like we've had. Still, I bet GH doesn't do the pally pally stuff with supporters some of ours in his position have.
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| Whatever happens it seems we have some deep rifts in game.
They need sorting out and not papering over.
This game is in need of forward thinking leaders and the removal of the cosy little gang that is feathering its own bed.
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| Quote: bren2k "I totally agree with Slugger - rugby league administrators are lifelong committee men with good intentions, but very little know-how; they are inward looking, parochial and cripplingly old-school. Without a change at the top, the sport in the UK is doomed to limp along as a minority interest in the M1-M62 corridor, and to be an object of derision or at best, disinterest, everywhere else.
Personally, I'd go back to basics; break down the existing paradigm and start from a basis of what's good for the game as a whole, and its consumers; if that means that clubs have to be forced to do some things they don't want to, tough titties.
For example, I too would increase the size of the SL to 16 teams and I'd make it a requirement that the U19's are reinstated with effect from the 2015 season. I would also increase the cap to catch up with inflation (at least) and at the same time, make one marquee player exempt, together with generous allowances for club trained youngsters. I'd also introduce a stricter overseas quota and place an upper limit on the number of games a player can participate in during one season, to force coaches to dip into their squad and give young players an opportunity.
And that's just for starters!'"
This is pretty much what I'd like to see.
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| I wonder what Wakey's stance would be had the RFL not loaned us money
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| It sounds like the RFL tried the oldest trick in the committee mans book at their most recent meeting, by tabling a vote on the new structure when several of the clubs who could vote against it were missing; that prompted the walkout that has resulted in Mr Hetherington's outburst in the media.
Given that they'd previously announced that the vote would be postponed until after the RLWC, I'm not surprised that several Chairmen took the drastic measure they did to derail that particular act of desperation.
The RFL board in its current form has lost all credibility - its time for Big Nige and his fellow passengers aboard the Red Hall gravy train to get off at the next stop.
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