You answered your own question for me.
We do not have parity in Sports Science and nutrition with them.
Including facilities too.

If Murphy did do that over here it makes you wonder if he was given a program from his new club to follow in order to become more physical.

When I say nutrition I more mean the access to the right food and supplements for young players that it will be better planned, perhaps paid for and monitored more due to the investment and focus I would imagine the clubs put into their academies. I’m not sure the uk clubs would put anywhere near the financial, management and educational quality into our youth systems.

and we have enough coaches that have gone through the Aussie system, with the knowledge etc to be able to implement it here. Perhaps it's a money, or lack of, thing that is holding us back.

No actually I didn’t. I said that was he case 15 years ago. I said the gulf was now very small. So question still in answered.

That’s exactly I think the issue, money and investment. Add to that the top clubs can just poach the academy players that other teams have heavily invested in at academy level.

That was my answer.
I don't think the gulf is very small.....shown by the evidence you give.

Why ask a 'genuine question' if you are going to argue with a genuine answer?

That wasn’t my issue. I’m pointing out that I didn’t answer my own question, because I don’t think there is a gulf. If you do fair enough, you might be right, but it wasn’t my answer it was yours

Slightly off topic, but I was reading recently about bio-banding and physical development. I believe it's something that has been used in the Southern Hemisphere for a while and is starting to catch on in the UK, although I've not heard about it in RL over here yet. Here's the link if anyone's interested https://theathletic.com/4655857/2023/09 ... otballers/

Slightly off topic, but I was reading recently about bio-banding and physical development. I believe it's something that has been used in the Southern Hemisphere for a while and is starting to catch on in the UK, although I've not heard about it in RL over here yet. Here's the link if anyone's interested https://theathletic.com/4655857/2023/09 ... otballers/

The very fact Murphy's team (and probably all NRL teams) have a multi million traing and rehab facility separate to the stadium, with teams who have attended the Australia Institute of Sport shows why it is different.

We have one of the best backroom staff we've ever had, and it's still 1 guy working in a very small gym.
I'm impressed with what we are doing, especially with nutrition side, but we are still light years behind in my opinion.

I was on about this with a mate the other day. Take Herbie Farnworth, top 3 centre in the world, went to Brisbane at about 16, Would he be the same player now if he came through Wigan, I don’t reckon so. Has anyone seen South Sydney’s new training facilities, it would match a premier league club. Sports science facilities and I reckon climate make a massive difference not taking into account the NRL is a Billion pound organisation. It’s like comparing the premier league to the Scottish premier league in my opinion.

There is no gulf in the knowledge and at most clubs there is no gulf in the facilities.
The gulf lays in the number of quality athletes that enter the system.
In Australia they have many more times the number of quality athletes available due to the prominence and attraction of the NRL. They are at the head of the line when kids decide which sport they want to play and which sportsmen they wish to emulate. The base of their talent pyramid is much wider than ours, it’s almost as simple as that!

Quote imwakefieldtillidie="imwakefieldtillidie"Slightly off topic, but I was reading recently about bio-banding and physical development. I believe it's something that has been used in the Southern Hemisphere for a while and is starting to catch on in the UK, although I've not heard about it in RL over here yet. Here's the link if anyone's interested https://theathletic.com/4655857/2023/09 ... otballers/'" Understanding maturation rates has been a consideration over here for many years. The problem in Rugby League is with the intelligence of some coaches who refuse to change or recognise maturation rates as an issue and adapt accordingly. Edit: I think I must point out that I’m talking about the coach not the S&C coaches who are generally much better educated about such things as maturation rates but don’t always have a say.

Quote imwakefieldtillidie="imwakefieldtillidie"Slightly off topic, but I was reading recently about bio-banding and physical development. I believe it's something that has been used in the Southern Hemisphere for a while and is starting to catch on in the UK, although I've not heard about it in RL over here yet. Here's the link if anyone's interested https://theathletic.com/4655857/2023/09 ... otballers/'" Understanding maturation rates has been a consideration over here for many years. The problem in Rugby League is with the intelligence of some coaches who refuse to change or recognise maturation rates as an issue and adapt accordingly. Edit: I think I must point out that I’m talking about the coach not the S&C coaches who are generally much better educated about such things as maturation rates but don’t always have a say.