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| It's easy with 20:20 hindsight, but Poching was a disaster for the club.
I didn't see it at the time.
I thought he was cool, calm, thoughtful, measured...
Now it seems we needed a Harbin or a Kear.
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| I think he is excusing his own poor performances and clear lack of match fitness. I would expect for his own professional standards he would be able to stay fit without coaching. I also don’t like his reference to how much he is paid but with an article like this he must back it up with performances that match his rhetoric.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I think he is excusing his own poor performances and clear lack of match fitness. I would expect for his own professional standards he would be able to stay fit without coaching. I also don’t like his reference to how much he is paid but with an article like this he must back it up with performances that match his rhetoric.'"
Yeah, you're right, we played e and nearly got relegated last year cos Lineham was fat.
He wasn't even here the majority of the season!
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| Quote: dboy "It's easy with 20
Really?
He had a win % so where in the mid 40s which is up there with Shane McNally and Andy Kelly, he must have been doing something right
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| Quote: dboy "Yeah, you're right, we played poop and nearly got relegated last year cos Lineham was fat.
He wasn't even here the majority of the season!'"
The fact that he couldn't even get in last season's team probably tells you all we need to know.
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| The point isn't whether he is right. It's whether he should say it in public. In my opinion he shouldn't.
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| He ought to show a bit more humility and just get on with the job. Comes across as a jerk.
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "He ought to show a bit more humility and just get on with the job. Comes across as a jerk.'"
He's certainly...different.
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| Quote: The Avenger "Really?
He had a win % so where in the mid 40s which is up there with Shane McNally and Andy Kelly, he must have been doing something right'"
Not before the sharp upturn in form from the Cas match. We were on a one way train to the drop.
What I heard at the time was that it certainly wasn’t Poching/Cummins that was responsible for the upturn in form and subsequent wins.
Overall Poching did an okay job though. It could have been much worse though if not for the late surge.
who cares now anyway? Lineham is playing better and we have
2023 to focus on now.
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| I saw it.
I stated it on here.
I got blasted from all directions.
I was right.
Doesn’t matter whether you like or disliked Poching, he wasn’t right. It was obvious at the Magic game if it wasn’t before!!!
It’s utter nonsense to quote his win record, it’s the match performances that matter that were the real issue and some were the worst I’ve ever seen, Salford away!
People seem to forget that had Toulouse not collapsed and Fifita, Arona and Miller in particular not played their hearts out in the last few games we were gone,
For heaven sake wake up, out of all our SL reprieves that was probably the worst in many ways.
I said Poching couldn’t coach and I gave my reasons - and unless anyone daft enough to believe I have any sway - the BOD felt the same. MC in particular has been around a while now, so unless you think he’s stupid he will have learned a thing or two. They will know when it’s not working even if they are not exactly sure why. They know the restraints a club like ours place on a coach but they also know what is possible.
It’s worth looking at comments made by Miller and Batch since leaving. Both have raved about Applegarth. To me that’s coded language for I’d have stopped and played for him.
It’s not personal I had high hope for WP, he’d done his time, he looked right, but some just can’t take the step up. It happens, it’s life, we are all where we are for a reason.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "Not before the sharp upturn in form from the Cas match. We were on a one way train to the drop.
What I heard at the time was that it certainly wasn’t Poching/Cummins that was responsible for the upturn in form and subsequent wins.
Overall Poching did an okay job though. It could have been much worse though if not for the late surge.
who cares now anyway? Lineham is playing better and we have
2023 to focus on now.'" .
Correct, and the Cas result had a lot to do with Miller showing his new boss and supporters what they were getting - had to have been Millers best game in years, possibly ever.
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| Quote: dboy "He's certainly...different.'"
Even he admits he is! I think he likes himself to be seen as a bit of a court jester - I'm not bothered as long as he puts the same effort in on the field, and the early indications are that he will.I think most fans have got the gist of what was wrong last season - at our worst it was obviously bad coaching or the players not following the game plan, both of which spell disaster.
Anyway proof of the pudding and all that...I don't expect top four but I do expect more effort and better game management than last season.
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| So what is it that Poching is meant to have done that meant that Salford scored 4 -5 tries down his wing but the stats show he didn't attempt one tackle for the whole game?
I'm sure Poching had his faults and was inexperienced, but let's not just ignore the fact that some players under performed.
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| Quote: PopTart "So what is it that Poching is meant to have done that meant that Salford scored 4 -5 tries down his wing but the stats show he didn't attempt one tackle for the whole game?
I'm sure Poching had his faults and was inexperienced, but let's not just ignore the fact that some players under performed.'"
Exactly !!!!! let's also not forget when we sent him to Fev, Kershaw and Murphy stepped in and were our regular wingers. Both had excellent seasons irrespective of Our coaching.
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| Quote: vastman "I saw it.
I stated it on here.
I got blasted from all directions.
I was right.
Doesn’t matter whether you like or disliked Poching, he wasn’t right. It was obvious at the Magic game if it wasn’t before!!!
It’s utter nonsense to quote his win record, it’s the match performances that matter that were the real issue and some were the worst I’ve ever seen, Salford away!
People seem to forget that had Toulouse not collapsed and Fifita, Arona and Miller in particular not played their hearts out in the last few games we were gone,
For heaven sake wake up, out of all our SL reprieves that was probably the worst in many ways.
I said Poching couldn’t coach and I gave my reasons - and unless anyone daft enough to believe I have any sway - the BOD felt the same. MC in particular has been around a while now, so unless you think he’s stupid he will have learned a thing or two. They will know when it’s not working even if they are not exactly sure why. They know the restraints a club like ours place on a coach but they also know what is possible.
It’s worth looking at comments made by Miller and Batch since leaving. Both have raved about Applegarth. To me that’s coded language for I’d have stopped and played for him.
It’s not personal I had high hope for WP, he’d done his time, he looked right, but some just can’t take the step up. It happens, it’s life, we are all where we are for a reason.'"
I'm not saying there weren't some tense times in the season but if we're to speculate just as you have done with Toulouse and turn it round the other way, we could've (key word) ended up third in the table! We lost 8 games by a try or less. Crazy to think how highly Poching will have been regarded if that would've happened.
The fact is we didn't and Toulouse couldn't get it right either, not forgetting Warrington.
Anyway not wanting a 3 page discussion. Just wanted to throw my two pence in on the point, getting back to it.
You stated it on here.
You got blasted from all directions.
You were right.
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