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On reflection I thought when we went 16-4 up our game management was yet again shocking to go in at half time losing was mental. Thought miller was brilliant& obviously Topou and Johnstone.
Crowther not good enough for a start and why he played 65 mins at hooker and wood only 15 god only knows distribution was like treacle I don't see what others see in Crowther never have done.
Green, tangata not good enough. Leeds didn't do enough to.win thought the referee was poor no way that pen count was justified, the Topou incorrect play the ball decision was shocking.
That was a poor Leeds side same fundamentals of last year were lacking. I think we looked slightly better due to miller looking much better.

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "On reflection I thought when we went 16-4 up our game management was yet again shocking to go in at half time losing was mental. Thought miller was brilliant& obviously Topou and Johnstone.
Crowther not good enough for a start and why he played 65 mins at hooker and wood only 15 god only knows distribution was like treacle I don't see what others see in Crowther never have done.
Green, tangata not good enough. Leeds didn't do enough to.win thought the referee was poor no way that pen count was justified, the Topou incorrect play the ball decision was shocking.
That was a poor Leeds side same fundamentals of last year were lacking. I think we looked slightly better due to miller looking much better.'"


Tangata didn’t get much opportunity for me but I thought Green needed to run his weight a bit more. I’m willing to give these guys a chance though. It’s the first game of the season and I don’t think anybody played particularly bad. There’s certainly something to work on and we actually did play some good football in parts. The ball movement across the line was very good in places giving good ball to the left particularly in space.

Add in a Jowitt, Wood and Battye and tweak a few things and I can see us getting something from the Wigan game.

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "On reflection I thought when we went 16-4 up our game management was yet again shocking to go in at half time losing was mental. Thought miller was brilliant& obviously Topou and Johnstone.
Crowther not good enough for a start and why he played 65 mins at hooker and wood only 15 god only knows distribution was like treacle I don't see what others see in Crowther never have done.
Green, tangata not good enough. Leeds didn't do enough to.win thought the referee was poor no way that pen count was justified, the Topou incorrect play the ball decision was shocking.
That was a poor Leeds side same fundamentals of last year were lacking. I think we looked slightly better due to miller looking much better.'"


I'm definitely not a fan of Crowther at 9 but needs must, hes definitely more effective in the back row. I'm certainly more concerned with our front row, Green has not done much since we signed him after his impressive loan period. Tangata seems to have been signed on the back of one impressive performance for Halifax in the CC. He hasn't got the metal for week to week SL. I'm really surprised we used our resources on signing another half back when it's common knowledge our pack is beaten for most of the game. Its getting a little bit repetitive just coming short in these games when we have to fish out the positives only to get a thumping the week after.

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "On reflection I thought when we went 16-4 up our game management was yet again shocking to go in at half time losing was mental. Thought miller was brilliant& obviously Topou and Johnstone.
Crowther not good enough for a start and why he played 65 mins at hooker and wood only 15 god only knows distribution was like treacle I don't see what others see in Crowther never have done.
Green, tangata not good enough. Leeds didn't do enough to.win thought the referee was poor no way that pen count was justified, the Topou incorrect play the ball decision was shocking.
That was a poor Leeds side same fundamentals of last year were lacking. I think we looked slightly better due to miller looking much better.'"


I would beg to differ in regard to Miller. How can he be brilliant and yet our game management be shocking ?
He's our captain, senior pro and main half back. I do not doubt his effort but his decision making, skill levels and leadership leave much to be desired.

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Think we did need a new half back ,the way Lino showed the ball slowed down the play to put Miller through a gap was something I have not seen from a half at Wakefield for years.Hope Battye can give use more punch up front .Think one of the main problem yesterday was Crowther, and Batchaler been on the pitch together.Compare to most S L clubs think they are too light weight to be on the pitch at the same time or the 17 .We could also get more grunt in the pack when Pitts returns .

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Quote: alegend "Think we did need a new half back ,the way Lino showed the ball slowed down the play to put Miller through a gap was something I have not seen from a half at Wakefield for years.Hope Battye can give use more punch up front .Think one of the main problem yesterday was Crowther, and Batchaler been on the pitch together.Compare to most S L clubs think they are too light weight to be on the pitch at the same time or the 17 .We could also get more grunt in the pack when Pitts returns .'"


Not so sure we need a new half pairing. There was enough in the game to show it can be a successful pairing with more work on last tackle kicks. I think needs must with Crowther but the first signing this offseason needs to be a quality 9.

Pitt’s I would hardly associate with “grunt”. Think that’s clutching as he’s just a solid second rower for me who won’t break many tackles but offer solid performances.

Although I’m not an advocate for Kalepi at prop it may be a needs must if we can’t get Green or Tangata to find some form which they have their chance this coming weeks.

Honestly I think Jowitt, Wood and Battye will make a big difference. No player should be down after that as none were “poor”. There is something to build on and if we build on the little things we can pick up some wins shortly.

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There was a lot of positive to work on, Think in second half we were the better footballing side ,even though Leeds had a lot more ball ,We wasted 3 good chances and held them to one try .Watched the rugby to day and Warrington got pulled up for pinching the ball Yesterday Leeds got away with it twice The one on T J was a disgrace .Think it's going to be down to the refs interpretation of the rule .Do not think that's good for the game ,and will slow the play the ball .

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The ball steal is in the rules. They just played it better than us.

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Quote: Brightside "I would beg to differ in regard to Miller. How can he be brilliant and yet our game management be shocking ?
He's our captain, senior pro and main half back. I do not doubt his effort but his decision making, skill levels and leadership leave much to be desired.'"


Fair point but for me miller is never a captain not on a million years another Chester error. Miller was far better and taken line on of old.

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Quote: PopTart "The ball steal is in the rules. They just played it better than us.'"


Let’s not the let truth and facts get in the way of wallowing in a victim complex

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Well I thought Miller played well

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Quote: djcool "Well I thought Miller played well'"

Playing behind a beaten pack thought he was outstanding and led from the front effort wise .

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The lack of go forward from the pack is worrying....lets hope that Fifita, Arona or Battye don't get injured as games will be more comfortably lost.

Green and Tangata looked ineffective and were poor. It looks like CC is trying to compensate for the fragility of the front row by putting Crowther (at 6ft 1 tall and 16 stone) at hooker.

It wouldn't surprise me if CC is still looking for another quality prop ...

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My Reflection......once again we let 2 points go
we will be lucky to win a game in our first 7 with the draw we have .

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