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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "The fact they've not even attempted to fabricate such evidence says it all. Creagh should be asking to see this. The council have shown their contmpt with regards to its rate payers having rejected the trust's requests to view this phantom legal advice, surely they can't deny a member of parliament.'"
Don't be silly. Wakefield Council do what they want.
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| As has been alluded to in previous posts, Mary Creagh isn't asking the right question and the Council are leading her a merry dance with their canny answers.
The SoSs ruling was that the UU or S106 or both applied to the land and not a particular planning application. That means any planning application, original, new or whatever should fall under the ruling and any square meterage should count toward the 60,0002m trigger point.
The questions should be
+ Why did the council ignore the clear SoS ruling and allow the Newcold storage building to be built outside of the UU/S106?
+ Why did Peter Box state, on live radio, that the Council had taken legal advice on this issue when subsequent FOI requests proved this to be untrue?
+ Why is the Council stating that this has nothing to do with them when they are the Local Planning Authority and therefore responsible for ensuring the SoSs legal ruling is applied?
+ Why is Wakefield Council failing to ensure the build and delivery of vital Community Sports facilities promised to the residents of Wakefield in return for giving up Brown and Green Belt land to a private developer.
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| I would also be interested to know why (if that correspondence is an accurate record) WMDC, YCP and The Trust had a meeting to discuss the Newcold application - and no objections were made to it being a separate application that could be considered without contributing to the trigger point in the UU? Surely that was the (blindingly obvious) point at which Mackie's scam, and WMDC's complicity in it, became obvious?
As it stands - everything WMDC is saying in response to questions is technically true; but their ability to hide behind that was enabled by the original decision to collude with YCP to circumvent the SoS' ruling - which they apparently got away with, unfettered by objections from other stakeholders. Baffling.
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| Quote: bren2k "I would also be interested to know why (if that correspondence is an accurate record) WMDC, YCP and The Trust had a meeting to discuss the Newcold application - and no objections were made to it being a separate application that could be considered without contributing to the trigger point in the UU? Surely that was the (blindingly obvious) point at which Mackie's scam, and WMDC's complicity in it, became obvious?
As it stands - everything WMDC is saying in response to questions is technically true; but their ability to hide behind that was enabled by the original decision to collude with YCP to circumvent the SoS' ruling - which they apparently got away with, unfettered by objections from other stakeholders. Baffling.'"
It's my understanding, and I'll stand being corrected here, is that the meeting you mention took place after the planning had gone through. The lack of any objection to the Newcold building being outside the S106 was because the Council did the bare minimum in publicising the the planning application. No one from the Trust side picked up on it in the planning portal and even if they noticed the Planning application there was nothing overtly within the planning that revealed the build to be outside the S106 and therefore not contributing toward the stadium trigger point.
Ducks n Drakes by the Council again
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| The question is,Why on earth would the council act in any way which would deprive the citizens of Wakefield the Community Stadium?
Especially as they had supposedly worked towards that goal themselves.
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| Quote: thebeagle "The question is,Why on earth would the council act in any way which would deprive the citizens of Wakefield the Community Stadium?
Especially as they had supposedly worked towards that goal themselves.'"
I suspect the developer has indicated that they would take their business elsewhere unless they can get a deal not involving construction of a stadium. J30 is a good location, but let's not kid ourselves that there aren't other equally good sites out of the district that will appeal to developers. Though there can't be many with that proximity to M1 & M62
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| Quote: TrinityIHC "I suspect the developer has indicated that they would take their business elsewhere unless they can get a deal not involving construction of a stadium. J30 is a good location, but let's not kid ourselves that there aren't other equally good sites out of the district that will appeal to developers. Though there can't be many with that proximity to M1 & M62'"
My thoughs on why are a tad more cynical.
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14911_1666773367.jpg [b:3diuzizv][color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]WAKEFIELD[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]TRINITY[/color:3diuzizv] - [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]The[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]PRIDE[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]of[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]Sporting[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]Wakefield[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "My thoughs on why are a tad more cynical.'"
Mine too!
I just wish there was some kind of investigative journalist out there who would pick up on it and start doing some digging, but journalism these days seems very much more of a "copy and paste" type of role.
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| Quote: Fordy "I just wish there was some kind of investigative journalist out there'"
What's Roger Cook up to these days?
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| Maybe someone with a real grasp of the whole situation (TRB, IA, SC???) could see about getting these guys interested
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| Quote: thebeagle "The question is,Why on earth would the council act in any way which would deprive the citizens of Wakefield the Community Stadium?
Especially as they had supposedly worked towards that goal themselves.'"
Thats a good question. Its easy to answer for the developer as they dont want to pay for the community facilities that they promised.
Why would the council (ie Mr Box) not want the Newmarket stadium to proceed? I believe that there is no way that he would allow the Newmarket stadium to be built before a new one was provided for Castleford. The Castleford project is struggling as it is, and that is without any question over duplicating facilities for the area should the facilities at Newmarket get built.
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| Quote: TrinityIHC "I suspect the developer has indicated that they would take their business elsewhere unless they can get a deal not involving construction of a stadium. J30 is a good location, but let's not kid ourselves that there aren't other equally good sites out of the district that will appeal to developers. Though there can't be many with that proximity to M1 & M62'"
Conveniently like this you mean....
rlhttps://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/hundreds-of-jobs-could-be-created-at-junction-32-park-1-8377686rl
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| Quote: Sacred Cow "Conveniently like this you mean....
rlhttps://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/hundreds-of-jobs-could-be-created-at-junction-32-park-1-8377686rl'"
But our wonderful council will be encouraging them units to be built at Newmarket to help trigger the community stadium build, wouldn't they?
WMDC working for us
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| Exactly, why encourage business to Newmarket and have to sneak it outside of the S106 when you can direct it to Cas to aid their cause?
This council leadership is very Castleford centric and does not care much for the City area, hence the lack of support for Newmarket and all the community facilities it would provide. Why are the council not outraged by what has happened at Newmarket ? Because they have manipulated the situation to be exactly as it is to delay everything until Castleford is sorted.
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| Walked down Wood Street today and I thought through an open window I could hear the words: "one for you Pete, one for me, one for you Pete, one for me etc etc...."
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