You could take the population numbers of any Town/City and see the same percentage not supporting the local club as some wont be into RL to start with. You only need look at who supports what football clubs and for what its worth its not my game so didn't go watch Wakefield football club play.I work with lads from Bradford who support Leeds utd and some from leeds who follow Liverpool.
As for Agar I don't see him taking the club forward to be honest its ok throwing the ball about side to side but we don't make as much ground as we should plus even towards the end of his first season 7 wins on the trot we were fortunate as we still let some real soft scores in against us more so outwide.I think part of his problem is he wants to be best mates with the players this is probably why all those that have played for him think hes a good coach.The other thing is just might be his assistant Webster aint a defensive coach as well and he could do with a good defensive assistant to get the right balance.Would I let Agar go well it looks like I would due to poor defensive structures letting things down then again its not my money (though revenue will suffer with walk up fans if this continues) so out of my hands.Unless I won that lotto then things would have to change but I wont hold my breath on that one.

Its going to be tough this Sunday and we are unlucky that Warrington seem to have picked up form as we play
them but I'm quite looking forward to Sundays game.
It was always going to be a tough season, I've not been too happy with some of the 'goings on' on and off the field
but lets see what sort of response we get from the players on Sunday and make some noise at BV.

Les - Regarding the defensive structures, is it not acceptable that in the modern game teams can put a score on you pretty quickly if you're not at your best?

We cannot expect to be at our best every week, there is going to be inconsistent results because we are a struggling team....as I posted on another thread yesterday, other teams in and around us are equally as bad defensively..

In fact, if you break down our season you could look at it and say against the current top 5 we've conceded 241 points in 6 games at an average of 40.16 per game....but against the rest have conceded 155 points in 7 games at an average of 22.14 pts....when you consider there was one really, really poor one in amongst the 2nd lot....the Hull KR away (44 points) then I don't think our problems are as deep as some people make out? I think we have definitely showed enough in our defensive structures against most teams we should be giving a game to suggest there is plenty more wins in us yet....

Brilliant post by the way Mick Amos....totally agree...

Sorry but I think your figures highlight the fact that we DO have a serious defensive problem.
For me, discipline was a big issue earlier in the season but I'm a loss now to pinpoint what is wrong. The players should be made to adopt the attitude of the Wigan youngsters against Leeds. That's the enthusiasm you need to win games!

I know I'm a Wire and I don't totally understand what's going on at Wakey but the interviews and the game on Sunday it appears you have a select few players who can be bothered and the rest give up as soon as the score line goes against them. Agars post match interview came across as though he was way in over him head and he hasn't a clu what he's going to do about it. I think you need a tough manager who isn't scared of letting players know the craic.

I'm not saying this to troll in anyway, it's just my opinion from an outsider looking in. I'd say if you come into form like Cas have done this season, playing with passion and working for each other, yeah you might still be on the end of a few hidings bit it would come. A bit like London, they're getting tonked but you are slowly seeing improvements and scorelines becoming more respectable.

Constructive criticism and I agree.

Why would we think you are trolling.

All fair points and coming from an outsider are maybe more valid than some views on here.

Excellent post by the op.
However, as paying customers, many fans feel that they should be able to question team selection and attitude (particularly on an open forum) and these issues stem directly from the Head Coach who is responsible for motivation and tactics.
On a number of occasions this season there have been some bizarre personnel and positional selections and in some of these instances we have been mickey poor.
Therefore people are right to question what Mr Agar is thinking.
Of course, we all need to remember where the club was, just a few months ago and we should all support the club and there is a debt of gratitude owed to MC and his team and perhaps on occasion some comments should be slightly less harsh but the results in games like KR (away) and Cas (home) shouldn't just be brushed aside as "a bad day at the office".
Lot's of our supporters have to work hard all week to be able to afford to watch Wakefield at the weekend and 100% effort is a minimum requirement.

Absolutely bang on! Even fans from other teams can see what's going wrong. In all my years of watching Trinity I can't remember getting tonked as many times as we do - and that's in the days when we only had a team made up of journeymen and young lads. This lot on paper are supposedly more than decent, Sammut, Scruton, Anderson, Godinet, Ryan, Kirmond, Smith, Walshaw, Tautai all really good players, that's more than half a team. A good coach to get them playing regularly like one and we would be mid table not one struggling and 'hoping' to win matches as our leader said in the post match v Cas.

Excellent post Moving on but I wish the words of the OP, Mick, had been spoken by Mr Carter.

The post-match interview after the magic weekend debacle is what really worried me. Agar sounded absolutely clueless. Would you be inspired by this:

“We’ve had two or three weeks of heading in the right direction but when we have too many people that aren’t at the top of their game then we have got that in us,” said Agar of a second derby defeat of the year.

“I thought the start of the game was very, very important for us. Castleford do start games exceptionally well and have done all season and I thought once we were in the grind in the first few sets we then throw a really soft, loose pass in our own ten, try a chip and chase and kick a ball out on the full. It probably set the tone for us. We felt at half-time we were dealing with a shell shocked team.

“We felt that two or three of Castleford’s tries we handed them to them on a plate. They were clinical and they’re a good side, a really good side. We didn’t have enough answer or response to the guys in the middle. The amount of offloads they got and Daryl Clark was particularly threatening off the back of that. We practised for it, trained for it but at the coalface you’ve got to make your tackles better than we did.”

When I say our defensive structures are poor I don't only talk about this season we have 2 seasons prior to this one and nothing has changed in those structures.I will say again even when on a seven game run we were very fortunate as we let some real soft scores in.It would be nice to know why it appeared that Fox was dropped and Mathers was put on the wing what a blinder that one is.Why experiment at KR when we ran Saints so close and yes the ref appeared to be a different one in each half but even in the Saints game we let some soft scores in so were we undone by the ref or our defensive shortcomings.Take how things came about with Seijka you would have had to been in a coma for it not to look like Agar shifted the team about to bring him in.I want whats best for this club that's why I have helped out at the ground its also why I paid for my season ticket when I could have had a freebie due to one of my childrens condition.Just might be we need to bring someone in to work along side what we have to improve our defensive side of the game but you cant help scratch your head at team selections.

This is sort of how I feel also.
I don't have a problem backing the club but when we seem to be getting something right, the wheels fall off.
If we are looking to finish 12th this season, I don't think we will finish above this next year because we will have the same scenario.
If we are to break the cycle, there is no point re-signing the Washbrooks, Sykes and Mathers.
There are quite a few players coming OCC at the end of the season, that will free up quite a fair wedge.
This could be used to sign a couple of quality players, not 3 or 4 steady players.
But in the end they have to be coached right.

I copied it from his email to me.. He definately wants the club moving forward I assure you of that. Just witnessing his emotions shows he cares. For the club to move forward the owner needs good family, friends, staff & supporters around them!

In the majority he has.. Keep believing, keep supporting. We all want the same thing!

I think your appraisal is about right Wires fan!