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Here we go again!!

Odds are based on the factor of risk of an outcome and the exposure to loss due to payouts. It's why odds change.

The odds quoted don't represent where the bookies think clubs will finish, but on how much they will have to cough up.

If no-one bets on Leeds, their odds will slide out. Similarly, if tons of cash is wagered on Trin, the odds will shorten - not because we are any more likely to win, but because of the loss they would take in payouts.
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William Hill have this slightly different, though the top 4 are the same in different order

9/4 Wigan Warriors
11/4 Warrington Wolves
10/3 St Helens
5/1 Leeds Rhinos
16/1 Huddersfield Giants
16/1 Catalans Dragons
20/1 Hull FC
40/1 Hull KR
50/1 Bradford Bulls
66/1 Castleford Tigers
66/1 Salford City Reds
66/1 Wakefield Wildcats
80/1 London Broncos
150/1 Widnes Vikings
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Quote: dboy "Here we go again!!

Odds are based on the factor of risk of an outcome and the exposure to loss due to payouts. It's why odds change.

The odds quoted don't represent where the bookies think clubs will finish, but on how much they will have to cough up.

If no-one bets on Leeds, their odds will slide out. Similarly, if tons of cash is wagered on Trin, the odds will shorten - not because we are any more likely to win, but because of the loss they would take in payouts.'"


Good point, it is effectively a reflection on punter's individual betting. You don't bet on the full list, just which one will finish top. And the opinion is changed by the odds, as it may be more tempting to risk your money at 150-1 even though there is no chance.
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Skybet have brought handicaps out for round 1. They have us with 2 points start at Widnes with Cas an even money game. Full list….

Leeds (-10) v Hull KR
Widnes (-2) v Wakey
London v Saints (-12)
Salford v Cas (no handicap)
Bradford (-4) icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif v Catalans
Hull v Wires (-6)
Wigan (-icon_cool.gif v Hudds
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Quote: pyeman "Well here it is folks, odds for next season
Without arguing about wakefield and caslefords(although i'm not sure how you come to the conclusion our squad is 4 places weaker than last year without losing any important players other than widders) respective finishing positions i would be very surprised if salford finished outside the bottom 2'"


I dont think its a case of Cas being that much weaker, but other teams have recruited a little better and its always tight from 6/7 down to 13th anyway and next season will be no different.
Salford should go a little better than last term, i think icon_confused.gif:
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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg
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Quote: wrencat1873 "Well here it is folks, odds for next season
Without arguing about wakefield and caslefords(although i'm not sure how you come to the conclusion our squad is 4 places weaker than last year without losing any important players other than widders) respective finishing positions i would be very surprised if salford finished outside the bottom 2'"


I dont think its a case of Cas being that much weaker, but other teams have recruited a little better and its always tight from 6/7 down to 13th anyway and next season will be no different.
Salford should go a little better than last term, i think I think with all the off field turmoil and a new coach that not to long ago their board considered not good enough to take up the role, could hurt them james is a good signing for them, and moon and mcpherson could go well but there other signings aren't to impressive and they have lost 2 very important players in cashmere and rathcford.
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Will be tight atthe bottom and I can't see anyone getting cast adrift as has been the case in the past.....maybe Salford'"


Or Widnes.......
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Quote: PopTart "Here we go again!!

Odds are based on the factor of risk of an outcome and the exposure to loss due to payouts. It's why odds change.

The odds quoted don't represent where the bookies think clubs will finish, but on how much they will have to cough up.

If no-one bets on Leeds, their odds will slide out. Similarly, if tons of cash is wagered on Trin, the odds will shorten - not because we are any more likely to win, but because of the loss they would take in payouts.'"


Good point, it is effectively a reflection on punter's individual betting. You don't bet on the full list, just which one will finish top. And the opinion is changed by the odds, as it may be more tempting to risk your money at 150-1 even though there is no chance.'"


Yes it is a good point and it's been made umpteen times before.

Come on folks get with it, it's not rocket science icon_frustrated.gif icon_frustrated.gif icon_frustrated.gif icon_frustrated.gif icon_frustrated.gif icon_frustrated.gif
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If we happen to finish 12th, but get within a couple of weeks of the play-offs, then there's nothing wrong with that. If we finish 12th with our season over with 6 weeks to go, then that would be poor. I want the season to be full of surprises; competitive games and to be alive with a chance of a play-off place until the end. Anything else would be a bonus. icon_cool.gif
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Quote: vastman "Here we go again!!

Odds are based on the factor of risk of an outcome and the exposure to loss due to payouts. It's why odds change.

The odds quoted don't represent where the bookies think clubs will finish, but on how much they will have to cough up.

If no-one bets on Leeds, their odds will slide out. Similarly, if tons of cash is wagered on Trin, the odds will shorten - not because we are any more likely to win, but because of the loss they would take in payouts.'"


Good point, it is effectively a reflection on punter's individual betting. You don't bet on the full list, just which one will finish top. And the opinion is changed by the odds, as it may be more tempting to risk your money at 150-1 even though there is no chance.'"


Yes it is a good point and it's been made umpteen times before.

Come on folks get with it, it's not rocket science
c015.gif c015.gif c015.gif c015.gif Youve told us this before Vasty, no harm in a flutter though icon_biggrin.gif
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Quote: TRB "If we happen to finish 12th, but get within a couple of weeks of the play-offs, then there's nothing wrong with that. If we finish 12th with our season over with 6 weeks to go, then that would be poor. I want the season to be full of surprises; competitive games and to be alive with a chance of a play-off place until the end. Anything else would be a bonus.
Agree that's exactly how I see it.
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Quote: wrencat1873 "Here we go again!!

Odds are based on the factor of risk of an outcome and the exposure to loss due to payouts. It's why odds change.

The odds quoted don't represent where the bookies think clubs will finish, but on how much they will have to cough up.

If no-one bets on Leeds, their odds will slide out. Similarly, if tons of cash is wagered on Trin, the odds will shorten - not because we are any more likely to win, but because of the loss they would take in payouts.'"


Good point, it is effectively a reflection on punter's individual betting. You don't bet on the full list, just which one will finish top. And the opinion is changed by the odds, as it may be more tempting to risk your money at 150-1 even though there is no chance.'"


Yes it is a good point and it's been made umpteen times before.

Come on folks get with it, it's not rocket science

No whatsoever we just don't need to take it so personal icon_cool.gif
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Quote: vastman "
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Quote: vastman "Here we go again!!

Odds are based on the factor of risk of an outcome and the exposure to loss due to payouts. It's why odds change.

The odds quoted don't represent where the bookies think clubs will finish, but on how much they will have to cough up.

If no-one bets on Leeds, their odds will slide out. Similarly, if tons of cash is wagered on Trin, the odds will shorten - not because we are any more likely to win, but because of the loss they would take in payouts.'"


Good point, it is effectively a reflection on punter's individual betting. You don't bet on the full list, just which one will finish top. And the opinion is changed by the odds, as it may be more tempting to risk your money at 150-1 even though there is no chance.'"


Yes it is a good point and it's been made umpteen times before.

Come on folks get with it, it's not rocket science

No whatsoever we just don't need to take it so personal icon_thumb.gif
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Quote: frenchdreadnought "I thought bookies knew their stuff.
Those odds seem to be base on recent history rather than looking closely at the squad that has ben put together.'"
they do know their stuff

I take it that these odds are to win the super league

and on past years we haven't so new build team would certainly be against all odds

eusa_think.gif be nice to dream though
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Hope the expectation level is kept in check it’s going to take time for the team to gel I think we will see some up and down performances until the players bond as a unit.
I would be over the moon with 8th and happy with 10th next season but knowing Wakey it could be 5th or 13th nothing would shock me
My bet is 10th then the play offs in season 2 under Agar
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