Agree with that. Not quite sure what’s happened with Army Dave. There was flashes of something there early season. Maybe he’s an ongoing project but Murphy seems to be developing nicely so it’s all positive.

I agree regarding the players. Its within their capability to challenge mid table should a number of them show consistency but for whatever reason they haven’t been consistent in their performances. It’s quite bemusing how a team can win 4 on the bounce to the lose 5/6 on the bounce without and huge personnel changes.

The good thing about this 2 week plus break is it gives the playing staff a chance to reset and properly prepare for our opposition in Tolouse. Something we haven’t had the luxury of during and after Easter period.

I’m expecting a professional and strong performance against Tolouse.

I still believe if the players put in the desire and application that this team can rise a few places up the league. It’s up to them.

Can’t say I was impressed by their pack in either games against us tbh and I don’t recall Cooper being the best forward on the pitch either game to be honest.

I just think we need to look elsewhere rather than a soon to be 34 year old prop from a team who’s fans are consistently complaining at the lack of go forward. I’d rather us look for the next generation. I’d be tempted to look at Dan Norman at Saints. He’s not the finished article but would be a good interchange prop for us.

That said I’ll put my faith in Poching and people who know far more than me to get the recruitment right for next year and beyond. We really do need some investment in that area that’s for sure.

A big unit, and at 24, his best years ahead of him, and my just want to kick start his super league career

If Powell is ready to let him go there must be a reason.

That’s right. I was talking about Cooper though. I do hope (if confirmed) that Butler shows up strong in the middle.

and?

Players leave clubs all the time, doesn't mean there is anything wrong with them - see Fifita, Lino, Hall, Lyne, Ashurst.

By your logic no player who ever leaves a club would be signed again

Phew. Well done Willzay. For a second I was worried no one would find anything negative to say about this.

Then why criticise the signing of Mimms then, if he was signed as a squad player.

Not having a go at Minns as you say hard to judge him as he as not played a lot Just saying that the players W Poaching as brough into the club so far seem to be younger and are there week in week out .And it looks like he is willing to give the young players a fair crack .So it must be a move in the right direction for the club

We were discussing young Widnes prop Tyler Dupree recently and I see he has gone to Salford immediately with Salford prop Josh Johnson going the other way in a swap deal.

Sounds like a signing for the sake of it.

What we got to lose .'

Apparently we're letting him go for cap space to bring in Rhys Kennedy from Brisbane for this year.
I'm gutted butler didn't work out for us as he was brilliant in 2019 with London in Super League.
He came too us out of shape and it took him awhile to get some fitness back. But i genuinely think with consistant game time he'll find his form again. I hope he does really well for you as he has the size and ability.
Also heard we've signed Tanginoa from you for next year, any of you guys heard the same? I'd be surprised if true unless it's for alot of Money and Butler is to help ease the loss of him?

Doubt it regarding Tanginoa, unless you’re willing to pay a big transfer fee. Don’t think he’s OOC for a bit yet but might be wrong.

If we plan to keep playing him at prop then I’d rather cash in on him if Wire are wanting to stump up. He’s devastating as a wide runner but I can’t see Ashurst ever losing the shirt as long as he’s here at trinity unfortunately.

Better that we sell and use the money for an actual prop.