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| Agreed his presence appeared to give us a bit of momentum but even that faded as we lost the last few games. With regards to players Salford and leigh have found them over last couple of years. End of the day it is a team game and at times felt like the fifita show
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| We would have not gone down to Championship if Miller had stayed ,A lot better player than what we had at 6, and better than we have now
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| Might still have gone down alegand but would have better chance if stopping up.
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| Quote: alegend "We would have not gone down to Championship if Miller had stayed ,A lot better player than what we had at 6, and better than we have now'"
I think I agree with that, which makes it worse that he went to Cas.....I blame both sides of that negotiation not just him.
But then we might not have Ellis and we wouldn't have been able to let some of the players go that needed to go.
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| Quote: PopTart "I think I agree with that, which makes it worse that he went to Cas.....I blame both sides of that negotiation not just him.
But then we might not have Ellis and we wouldn't have been able to let some of the players go that needed to go.'"
Agree guess it is swing and roundabouts
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| Quote: PopTart "That's because you don't understand the stats in my opinion. The metres are judged on metres forward not metres run.
Fifita had calf issues and often played injured....but I also remember a period of time where Fifita didn't miss a tackle for 10 games and was top tackler of the middles for most of them.
Stats are facts. You can interpret them differently, hence why politicians use them for agendas but Fifita's tackling and number of carries are facts.'"
Some may not like stats but the fact is between 2017 and 2022 Fifita had 100+ Tackle Busts in every season except that 2020 covid and injury-hit one.
2017 - 104 TB and also had 598 tackles, missing just 22.
2018- 114 TB and 436 tackles missing just 19.
2019- 141 TB and 584 and just 29 missed.
2020- only played 9 games, through injury etc.
2021- 100 TB and 601 and missed just 18 tackles.
2022- 106 TB and 527 and 24 missed.
There isn't/wasn't another middle that comes close to those impactful stats, the amount of times he missed a tackle is pretty eye-opening for a big lad like him TBH. Also you don't get stats like those from hanging around in back play not asking for the ball, in fact quite the opposite.
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| This shifty , what you give are impressive enough , are you able to provide number of games each season he played and how many we won with him in the team and when not
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| Quote: Trin e ti "This shifty , what you give are impressive enough , are you able to provide number of games each season he played and how many we won with him in the team and when not'"
Not sure what you are trying to prove. It's a team sport and we were a poor team.
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| Quote: Trin e ti "This shifty , what you give are impressive enough , are you able to provide number of games each season he played and how many we won with him in the team and when not'"
Give it a rest now for gods sake......
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| We need cover in the halves, milky never wanted to leave the club. Am sure that a - he’ll give a 100 percent b-be one of the best halves at championship level.
If cas are paying a proportion of his wage then a great bit of business by the club
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| Quote: Kirmudgeonlyisback "We need cover in the halves, milky never wanted to leave the club. Am sure that a - he’ll give a 100 percent b-be one of the best halves at championship level.
If cas are paying a proportion of his wage then a great bit of business by the club'"
I've no doubt he'd give his all. I liked him a lot for exactly that.
But I don't think we forced him out. He went for a better offer.
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| I don’t want us to help Cas get a better halfback. Leave him there so he can continue to hamstring them.
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| Quote: PopTart "I've no doubt he'd give his all. I liked him a lot for exactly that.
But I don't think we forced him out. He went for a better offer.'" That's not correct pop tart. He got made an offer from cas and he told wakefield and the club kept saying wel sort it with you. As the weeks went on milky then said if you don't want me or you don't sort my contract by this date then I'm off. The date passed so he signed for cas. A few days later the club wanted to negotiate with milky but it was too late he'd gave his word. The club then said to him will you stay we will ring cas and pay a fee. He not even left or played for them, looks like edging their bets to me
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| I agree it was time to let Milky go, the 3 year deal from Cas was not something we should have been competing with. The mistake was not replacing him with a decent 6, everyone could see from the 2022 season that Gaskill was not a viable option. Personally I would leave Milky at Cas, their fans hate him, he is a huge drain on their finances, it is better for us going forward ( and always has been and forever will be ) if Cas struggle. Cas having to pay Milky £ 125,000 a year for the next two years is brilliant, Cas fans do know their rugby and they saw very quickly that Milky was not the answer. We should not do anything that helps Cas is anyway whatsoever and us taking Milky would be a massive help to them
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| Quote: bellycouldtackle "I agree it was time to let Milky go, the 3 year deal from Cas was not something we should have been competing with. The mistake was not replacing him with a decent 6, everyone could see from the 2022 season that Gaskill was not a viable option. Personally I would leave Milky at Cas, their fans hate him, he is a huge drain on their finances, it is better for us going forward ( and always has been and forever will be ) if Cas struggle. Cas having to pay Milky £ 125,000 a year for the next two years is brilliant, Cas fans do know their rugby and they saw very quickly that Milky was not the answer. We should not do anything that helps Cas is anyway whatsoever and us taking Milky would be a massive help to them'"
Spot on mate!
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