I don't think Agar is a bad coach, just not a head coach. Doesn't really impact on your point of which I agree with. Agar is safe as houses. There isn't the will nor the money for it to be any different.

It for me is about frustration.
From the despair of 4 months ago to where we were just before the season started, with bundles of optimism.
If you look at our first three games, Salford, not expected to get much from that but came so close.
Bradford at home, a game that after Sunday's performance, you would have expected us to get the points against a side with a skinny squad than us.
Wigan away on Sun, playing a team that has just played in World Club Challenge and will possibly be feeling the effects come Sunday.
Three games all with a possibility of coming away with something with different factors influencing how to play.
This for me is when your coach earns his corn.

I would say that Agar was still possibly the best coach that we could have got when he was given the job, assuming that the rumours about Powell not wanting to come were correct.
We go a little lucky in his first season, finishing the regular season with 7 wins on the bounce and last season was largely an anti climax.
We had as settled a squad that we have had in many years and for one reason or another we didn't quite hit the mark.
There was plenty of juggling with the squad with Mariano and Vince Mellors, never quite fitting in, although Mariano finished the season as one of our better players.
The main point about last season (and I don't know if anyone is qualified to answer), is the possible effect of our financial predicament.
Although this came into the public domain at the end of the season, were there any major issues before this time that would cause upset within the ranks and with the coach ?
Moving onto this season, it's not reasonable to pass judgement yet.
We've had a topsey turvey close season, with large numbers of our better players leaving which is not Agars fault and yet he is the guy that has to pick up the pieces and create a competitive squad.
Ok, we still have KIrmo, Collis, Mathers and Fox as senior players from last season but most of the rest are either younger players or newcomers and 3 of these have only been in the country for 2 weeks.
On top of this we've had to play 2 games in 5 days, which is difficult enough for any team, but far more difficult for a group of players looking to get to know each other and for Agar to mould into a team.
The problem with this season is the threat of relegation at the end of the year and we have now failed to pick up points in 2 very winnable games.
The team will improve and I still believe that we will avoid the drop.
As for Glen Morrison, I agree that he is a top bloke and he MAY be able to do a job but, it would be a HUGE gamble and not one that we should take.
It could damage our chances of survival and could dent Morrison's coaching aspirations, unless of course he could be successful at Wakefield, in which case the opposite would be true.

We have to face facts that, at this moment in time, we are a lower end SL club, with a chequered financial record and unless MC is successful in steadying the ship and helping build our reputation in the RL world, we will remain in this for position .

Of course, IF Newmarket becomes a reality, we could start to grow and hopefully become a major force in the game.

We should of gone for Daryl Powell when he was at Featherstone, great great coach who set the benchmark for the rhinos team we all see today. Worked wonders at Featherstone and is doing the same as Cas in making them a well drilled team. Agar is cut from the same cloth as Cullen,with both having huge funds available to them but both doing absolutely naff all. Both can talk the talk and attract decent players whilst also having the players respect. Ultimately both are proven failures

You are joking aren't you?

Your right wrencat it would be a gamble for Morrison match more than us shall I tell you the differancebetween Morrison and agar glen treats all players with respect that's why he gets the most out them the same can't be said for agar who certainly has is favorites and his treatment of walshaw and wildie is criminal, didn't go to Salford but those two are the equals if not better than Ryan and godinet,who id been led to believe were our saviours,on their displays against Bradford I don't think so and don't give me the only just got off the plane excuse, you can always see a bit of class if its there , ,the halfbacks passing was dire and the centre /second row looked second rate

Stick with Agar and he get you 7 to 9 wins this season IMO. A one in three / one in four ratio - Will that be enough though. That is the question ?

Vastmannn - I can't believe my cheese and pickle sarnies were considered to be pathetic - they were actually very nice and I would have made you some if iI thought it might have calmed you down.
Would you have preferred egg mayonnaise?

I have never been Agars biggest fan, didn't want him at the beginning and don't really rate him now. But given what he has had to put up with this off season then to sack him now before he has had a real opportunity to work with the team he has assembled would be the wrong decision. Yes he has made mistakes and some of them are recurring but he has to be given the chance to show what he can do with this group of players. If come easter we are still as poor as we have been for all but just over half an hour at salford then it may be time to act. But he has i feel earned the right to be given a decent shot.

As for Morrison, he is an up and coming coach with plenty of potential but is still very green having just one full seasons experience as a head coach. He did well at Dewsbury last year but ideally i'd like to see him have another full season under his belt before he goes for a top level job.

Probably all immaterial anyway, as I doubt we could afford to pay him off and with KH in situ he is as safes as houses anyway.

Can't believe this thread….hope to god the club and players are not reading it. Give the bloke a chance with a settled team for god's sake !, lets compare him with Powell at the end of the season eh?, baring in mind he's had a settled team at Cas for months now !! Also can anyone still honestly be;ieve Wildie is a better half back than Godinet !! , but yes he should be spelling McShane at hooker. Lets see what the next few games bring.

I don`t think we can sack the coach because it would cost, what MC should do is set up a Rugby committee who the coach has to answer to. Kath H should not be on the RC.