that's got to have gone down as one of the grittiest games England has performed in years and should take all the plaudits for it, at one stage 16 -6 I actually thought it would go the kiwis way as they did look threatening.

I'm looking forward to the final as I hope they for once realise the do have a chance if they play like that, the ten mins will be vital

well done lads

Well done England and to Tomkins on scoring, the got up the NZ noses lol

Turns out McNamara can coach after all!

Sorry Steve for all the foul things I've said about you

what you said about me

NZ were gash, more like a Sunday morning side than the team that won the comp last year!

Bit harsh on us, that. I thought our pack was immense. Just bullied them off the park.

I was just pleased that i managed to watch it live here in the states
hadn't realised Fox sports was showing the 4 nations until I turned it on last week to see the interviews at end of Aussie game. Really looking forward to watching final next week and hoping this means they might show super league games next season

Yes NZ didn't play well but I think that was mainly down to us not giving them a inch and when they tried to gain a little momentum in the second half we quickly put a halt to it and pulled away from them. He may be a little get but there's no denying the more you watch Tompkins the more he impresses you, they all played well today, should have maybe scored more points in the first half but still.

You can only play whats in front of you, sadly NZ are a shadow of the side they were, attacking rugby was almost non existent from them, and at times the only game plan they had appeared to be smash up tomkins and rattle chase.
I thought in parts we played very well, as I did last week, but NZ have gone backwards and Aus never got out of third gear.
If Aus are up for the final, I fear a drubbing, but at least we made the final, if I was a New Zealander I would be hugely concerned as to what's gone wrong!!

yes they was gash and so will the aussies if England play again like that. they never really got a look in

So if we do beat the Aussies they too will have gone backwards?
No credit will be given to England?
I am afraid there is no pleasing some people.