I know you are deliberately being obtuse because I know only too well we are not St Helens but Toulouse are not Huddersfield. I think even you will admit but maybe not, that after we lost Fifita we went to pot and if we had a game plan it was quickly forgotten and replaced by the headless chicken routine. I have said before WP had halftime to sort it out but the performance suggests he was unable to do so. I don’t expect you to agree but if we fail to win Sunday then the clamour for change will grow because even if you are not willing to accept it relegation could see the club in the wilderness until we are able to fund a team to get us out.

I agree with what you say about Toulouse. Added to not having our scrum half at the last minute. We are not Sts. So why compare?
The fact remains, none of the other stuff has happened yet.
For me, you are reacting like the same headless chickens.
Quite a few games to go and we don't know what will happen.
Walking round the forum with a The End Is Nigh board doesn't help anyone.

I remember a famous commentary here in Aus when (I think is was Ryan Atkins playing for GB) … it was said of him …’the guy can certainly tackle… just a shame he can’t defend’

Not saying this applies to Croft necessarily but the edge defence for the last three games has been all at sea!

Think whats he is trying to say PT is that going to 2 men last week wasnt an excuse for wht happend which it wasnt.

But anyway it is what it is win tomorrow and we will be more happier,
Im just setting of to london now to cheer the acadamy lads on

We leave a winger out of th squad who though raw as not looked out of place, .We replace with a new guy Yet the main problem caused by Lyins injury in the as not been sorted after three matches that was no were near the standed of Championship centres .How does that work

So do we but at the moment our players aren't performing anywhere near the levels of Huddersfield, Salford, or even Toulouse

It very much applies to Croft. To have a a missed tackle put against you then you have to be close enough to actually miss it. Some of his defensive reads have been shocking but won’t have counted as misses.

Tomorrow now a must win as it’s looking all too easy for Toulouse.

Tomorrow has cranked up a whole lot. If we lose we're of course in the mix and itll probably be between us both. Maybe Salford but annoyingly even though points wise they're not Leeds and Wire will still pull clear at some point..

Leeds are another side that are playing in Toulouse with a weakened side. The lucky beggars, this will be the reason that they probably stay up.

No the reason will be they have either accrued more league points than us or have a better points difference. We had the same opportunity against a weakened Huddersfield team but couldn’t take advantage.

Add this to beating us twice thats an 8pt swing