The opinion of 48% of the population is being ignored... I like Ken Clarke's take on affairs. Fair play to Mary for voting with her conscience, she's always supported the EU so at least we don't have an mp who bends which ever way the wind blows. It would be like us ditching Wakefield to go watch Cas just because they've had a few good seasons! I've far more time for people who are loyal to their cause!

i wonder if you would have the same view about creagh and Clarke had they voted against something you were passionate about?

I'm afraid creagh and a whole host of both Tory and labour MPs are among the political elite of this country who seem to think they know what's best for us all, regardless of whatever opinions we might have.
You can vote in this country.. But you can't vote for change. Unless it's in the form of a referendum.people saw the referendum as a chance to let parliament know exactly how we felt, and that's why we find ourselves where we are today.
But until we get rid of the tories and labour as political forces in this country then nothing much is going to change,and because we run the two party system their both quite happy for things to run along as they are.they certainly don't want proportional representation, as this certainly would bring an end to their reign, as more people would see their votes counting wether they vote ukip or green thus giving them more MPs in parliament.

Spot on.

You'd think the penny would have dropped after Trump but no they still won't listen you only have to look at that granstanding idiot John Berko to see that.

At this rate we'll have to vote Charles Manson in before these self serving liberals get the point. Nobody wanted Trump and many didn't really want Brexit they just wanted to be heard at last and remind these parasites who pays the bills!

That's right, you've shown those pesky politicians!

You've shown them by giving them more power and also made yourself poorer to boot.

"War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength"

To be honest nothing will change massively until we have a societal sea change. Automation is coming and will make many, many jobs redundant. What will we do with those who are forced out of the workforce? We can't just sit back calling them scroungers like we treat the unemployed at present.

Are you a fortune teller by any chance?

Plans are already in place for this mass loss of jobs, Finland are already discussing a minimum basic national income and plan to give every citizen 800 Euros income per month [£680 approx. at current exchange rate] all benefits would be scrapped. the Netherlands have also been trialling the same plan in parts of the country with high unemployment. its the way the world is going.

No.

I work for a leading supermarket chain. Been in several meetings over the last 6 months about how much more the company can absorb the steadily rising costs.

Worse case scenario is your shopping will be 10% more expensive by the end of the year. Further rises if the EU play hardball.

Basic economics, not fortune telling I'm afraid.

Considering we have had virtually nil inflation for the last few years and Goverment policy is for a rate of 2% per annum, shopping is just part of the inflation equation. I dont see how the EU can play hardball with us, they have more to lose, after all we buy more from the EU than we sell to the other 27 EU countries. Anyway time will tell and a slight increase in inflation over the 2% target rate to me is a price well paying to get out of the undemocratic EU.

And the millions who are already living in or very near poverty?

Are they collateral damage?

Millions? Depends on what you class as poverty,I grew up in the 50s/60s and have seen what i would term poverty. In a country that millions are trying to get into and succeeding why do you think they are all coming here, the UK one of the most sought after countries in the world,they are not here for the poverty.

Having being brought up in city centre slums with shared outside toilets, no hot water, a tin bath and mice as room mates I often wonder if the modern day measure of poverty in the UK might be a bit more luxurious. Poverty is measured relative to the general standards of the population. Does it now mean not having money for TV, ale, cigs and a iphone?

No my friend what you are referring to is just one form of economics that being greedy capitalism.

What you are taking about is profit not cost, With the exception of a few core lines most Supermarkets can easily absorb a 10% increase and still make a huge profit. However they are greedy and so are most of there already wealthy shareholder who simply won't accept a drop in profits or dividends.

So let's be straight about this Tesco or whoever will never lose money even with a 10% hike in costs they will just make less profit. They are not willing to do this so they will pass that cost on to maintain profits to those who can generally afford it least - the customer.

That is basic economics in a market driven economy so spare us the platitudes please - we may be stupid but were not that stupid.

Well said Wollo.
Brought up in similar situation.Used to have bath Friday in front of black lead fireplace watching Wagon Train.
Shared wash house and toilet at far end of terrace.
Stop there before it gets like the Monty Python sketch.