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Quote: Shifty Cat "No he isn't even close really. The past 2 years Kirmond has played 14 games last year and 12 this. Mariano for Cas has played 5 last year and 5 this year. What you can say about kirmond is that he's strapped himself up and got out on the pitch, when the teams needed him, even when he's been injured.'"


Well I think that's just silly if that's the case. Playing injured causes further injuries. The semi final appearance was pointless; bordering on plain stupid.

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I doubt a good coach like Powell would let a player go if he was firing on all cylinders and could strengthen his team.

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Quote: MashPotatoes "Well I think that's just silly if that's the case. Playing injured causes further injuries. The semi final appearance was pointless; bordering on plain stupid.'"

The guys obviously missed games when he's had to due to medical advice, they're the ones that make the calls ateotd. The point was what you said was wrong, they are not close as far as missing games and injuries but hey you keep having a pop at him if you want.

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I'll have a pop at all players until they are playing consistantly well. Chester said we are aiming to follow in Cas's footsteps; as much as it pains me to say it he's very right. Kirmond wouldn't get anywhere nr a starting place at Cas, patched up or fully fit.
It's not only a dig at him, it only takes 3 or 4 players not performing to a certain level to make the side look dire.

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Please god yes get rid of kirnond our useless captain and molly who runs like a girl ... Mariano can actually play rugby

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Don't get this knocking Kirmond when he has often put his hand up to play when he has been injured much to the detriment of his own health at times more so last season when we were a small squad short on numbers. Mariano aint a bad player but would he have done the same I don't think so

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"Mariano can actually play rugby" I liked him when he was here but appearances for Cas says he hasn't.

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2014 Mariano was quality for us. Played the majority of games, added really impetus off the bench with good leg drive and ran great lines. He's had some really chronic luck this last 2 years which are nothing to do with lack of heart. He played a few games this year and showed quality. A fit Frankie is far superior then some of the names mentioned on here eg Walton molloy etc.a risk, yes, get him playing and it will be a risk worth taking. For what it's worth, i had heard a few weeks ago he was Wakefield bound. He spent some time online with Batley this year before playing for Cas.

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I dont get this bagging Kirmo all of a sudden.

Is it a pure coincidence that our good run earlier in the seasin happened when Kirmo was fit and playing.

Unfortunately injuries are starting to take its toll on his body and really the same with Mariano. So I wouldnt bring him in to replace Kirmo.

What I would do though is look at a new captain for next year. It is unlikely he will be fit for the start of the season. Last night as well as the last few weeks that despite experienced players we have no leaders when he doesnt play.

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Quote: Eastern Wildcat "I dont get this bagging Kirmo all of a sudden.

Is it a pure coincidence that our good run earlier in the seasin happened when Kirmo was fit and playing.

Unfortunately injuries are starting to take its toll on his body and really the same with Mariano. So I wouldnt bring him in to replace Kirmo.

What I would do though is look at a new captain for next year. It is unlikely he will be fit for the start of the season. Last night as well as the last few weeks that despite experienced players we have no leaders when he doesnt play.'"


We have no vocal leader when Danny does play. Chester has identified the need to recruit some more vocal players as the current squad are a quiet bunch

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "Please god yes get rid of kirnond our useless captain and molly who runs like a girl ... Mariano can actually play rugby'"


I can think of some useless supporters we ought to get rid of too.

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Quote: MashPotatoes "I'll have a pop at all players until they are playing consistantly well. Chester said we are aiming to follow in Cas's footsteps; as much as it pains me to say it he's very right. Kirmond wouldn't get anywhere nr a starting place at Cas, patched up or fully fit.
It's not only a dig at him, it only takes 3 or 4 players not performing to a certain level to make the side look dire.'"


Like I said before you were totally wrong about how many games Kirmond has played V Mariano & imo it was in poor taste to single him out considering what's just happened to him.

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "Please god yes get rid of kirnond our useless captain and molly who runs like a girl ... Mariano can actually play rugby'"


You say that he can play but, Powell wouldn't get rid if he was as good as you think.

Weve had a number of Ex Cas players over the last few seasons but, only Arundell and Finn have come up to scratch.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "You say that he can play but, Powell wouldn't get rid if he was as good as you think.

Weve had a number of Ex Cas players over the last few seasons but, only Arundell and Finn have come up to scratch.'"


Are you sure about that?

Are you sure that there aren't any moore? icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Shifty Cat "Like I said before you were totally wrong about how many games Kirmond has played V Mariano & imo it was in poor taste to single him out considering what's just happened to him.'"


The stats department on paper yes. I'd like to see how many games Kirmond has been forced to play when he's not been fit. IMO he's either not been fit since his inclusion into the dream team. Hard working tackler YES, blockbusting line breaking second rower that every other team in SL has a couple of......... A resounding NO.
Anyway I'm bored of this now, Mariano is a better player IMO, I'll just leave it at that.

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