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| i bought my s,t when mc said he would build a team around dk,
if he is sold i will be the first to cancel my s.t ,
the club are doing nothing at all to try and get fans to buy there s.t.
if the club was 400k under capitalized not in dept ,then the 400k as been saved on the wages of the players gone alone.
all it is with mc is money money money never mind the paying fans
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| hes the ken bates of rugby league
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| Quote: gapshire12345 "i bought my s,t when mc said he would build a team around dk,
if he is sold i will be the first to cancel my s.t ,
the club are doing nothing at all to try and get fans to buy there s.t.
if the club was 400k under capitalized not in dept ,then the 400k as been saved on the wages of the players gone alone.
all it is with mc is money money money never mind the paying fans'"
Fair enough but i would ask do you support Wakefield Trinity RLFC or names in shirts?
Don't know what honest fans have done to deserve this gapshire, we deserve better after all the crap we've been through over the years.
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| yes we do deserve better, el rey , but its true , we are being lied to all the time,
dont you agree,
when he said if we sell 3000 st no one would go, i rushed out and signed up for 2 platinums,
680 pound ,do you think its fair on me now all the players have gone wich i paid to watch.
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| Forget about Kirmond going it may never happen, it may be a rumour.
However its the wider picture that interests me. We are selling players and clubs
are willing to buy them and pay transfer fees. However people are happy with that
because they think when we stop selling we will go out and build a team with new players.
Who are these players ? and why are the clubs that are buying ours not signing them ?
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| Quote: El Rey "Fair enough but i would ask do you support Wakefield Trinity RLFC or names in shirts?'"
Personally, the job I have is a very demanding and time consuming one, I am always bringing work home and far too often have to offload the kids at weekends to get caught up. Going to watch Wakey takes a good four plus hours from my family time, sorry but I am not willing to give that up to watch a selling, uncompetitive club that just keeps letting us fans down. I need to see evidence that we want to compete next year and all I'm currently seeing is evidence that we are setting ourselves up to be Leeds 'dual reg' team in the Championship.
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| Quote: jack in the box "Forget about Kirmond going it may never happen, it may be a rumour.
However its the wider picture that interests me. We are selling players and clubs
are willing to buy them and pay transfer fees. However people are happy with that
because they think when we stop selling we will go out and build a team with new players.
Who are these players ? and why are the clubs that are buying ours not signing them ?'"
Good point Jack.
Of course the Kirmo thing is just rumour at present but, IF we've sold him for 200k, then its good business, regardless of the fact that he's our captain.
However, what/who we will have next season is going to make the Kear squad of 3 seasons ago, look like world beaters and it's certainly going to test the "loyalty" of even our most die hard fans.
The silence from the club on the website is deafening and I have to say that our new management are not giving anything whatsoever to the fans right now.
An interesting tactic for boosting income and generating S/T sales
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| Quote: gapshire12345 "i bought my s,t when mc said he would build a team around dk,
if he is sold i will be the first to cancel my s.t ,
the club are doing nothing at all to try and get fans to buy there s.t.
if the club was 400k under capitalized not in dept ,then the 400k as been saved on the wages of the players gone alone.all it is with mc is money money money never mind the paying fans'"
But if your figure is correct, it still doesn't help the current situation, those savings are for next season not today. If HMRC come calling or the gas bill arrives on the doormat, what do you pay them with?
The money we get from transfer fees, season ticket and merchandise sales, sponsors daft enough to pay now before the season starts etc is what pays the £400k we needed to pay bills (and this figure is apparently rising as items 'come out of the woodwork')
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| Quote: 18th Man "Personally, the job I have is a very demanding and time consuming one, I am always bringing work home and far too often have to offload the kids at weekends to get caught up. Going to watch Wakey takes a good four plus hours from my family time, sorry but I am not willing to give that up to watch a selling, uncompetitive club that just keeps letting us fans down. I need to see evidence that we want to compete next year and all I'm currently seeing is evidence that we are setting ourselves up to be Leeds 'dual reg' team in the Championship.'"
Tut tut
With regard to the second part, as I have said previously on another post, we've 3 months to go, a little patience is in order. Now go and change a nappy, that will keep you busy
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| Quote: PHe "But if your figure is correct, it still doesn't help the current situation, those savings are for next season not today. If HMRC come calling or the gas bill arrives on the doormat, what do you pay them with?
The money we get from transfer fees, season ticket and merchandise sales, sponsors daft enough to pay now before the season starts etc is what pays the £400k we needed to pay bills (and this figure is apparently rising as items 'come out of the woodwork')'"
Yes I've heard the same. However The dynamic duo have been gone for quite a while now and carter has been in charge a good three months. Seems a bit strange that people who are owed money have waited all this time to start demands.
I would have thought they would have an accurate financial picture long before now. Still we can only accept what we are told, time will tell.
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| 5 pages of what could just be a rumour, Danny was at the book launch yesterday not sure if anyone asked him or not
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| Wow melt down over an unconfirmed rumour
Players come players go look at the club site from 1963 is the club still here?
There's more to life than being suicidal on sport whilst there is a club to watch I will be there regardless
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Good point Jack.
Of course the Kirmo thing is just rumour at present but, IF we've sold him for 200k, then its good business, regardless of the fact that he's our captain.'"
I would like DK to stay, but if we've sold him for 200k then its sad but is good business. I like everyone on here would love to keep him but if the reality his keep him or save the club? for me its Trinity every time. The 2012 squad was cobbled together, they started off slowly, defensively a shambles but reasonable going forward. As the season progressed, confidence grew and they over achieved. Aiton, T. Smith, Amor and Kirmond were all brought in and gambled upon. They clicked, Smith turned out to be a good signing, Amor developed from a prospect to a first team player and Kirmond became a good player and captain. He started to show his qualities. He also put back a little local pride, a local lad as captain. Over achieving obviously led to us running before we could walk. This coupled with a load of waffle from a double glazing salesman (never trust a double glazing salesman). Its really sad to see this core of a team disbanded but its better than seeing Trinity close down for good.
None of these players were here three years ago but the club was. It brushed itself down and started again. I don't know if MC is here for the long term, I'm pretty sure he doesn't. But if he can make the club into a business that operates within its budget and put it on an even keel then I'm happy he's here at the moment. If you've built once you can always build again, its just it hurts a bit more as you get older.
Saying all that I'd love to keep DK and build a team around him, local players who care and want to play for Trinity, supplimented with a few quality players. Oh............ and World peace.
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| You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be one
Think its inevitable that if Salford are willing to pay anything over 100k for Kirmond he will be sold to clear debt. Sounds like we've got fees for Tim Smith and Aiton but not Poore as desperate to get him off the wage bill but surely 80-100k saved there at least alone?
I'm hoping that we have 5/6 SL standard players on standby (Richard Moore, Matt Wildie and Mark Offerdahl)to announce their signings once Kirmond and Cockayne are eventually sold.
Remember two seasons ago Agar was making noises about a team built at last minute with little pre season? It's happening again although the opening day win against Widnes would be good. Pre season has started hasn't it?
His hands are probably tied tight as Daddy Cool must surely know that even the announcement of Wildie being signed on a 1 year contract would give some relief from all the doom and gloom and give a little hope to encourage season ticket sales.
Most except for the diehards will not pay to see a 'pub team' play next year as they must at least be competitive.
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| I don't want him to go but it's not the end of the world. We could walk a financial precipice and not sign other needed players just to keep him, and then he could get a season-ending injury in the first game. He is 100% commitment, and that is the quality we should be looking for in replacements, and sometimes that can be found cheaply.
Remember Richard Moore before he fell ill? Remember that Danny Kirmond was an unwanted cast-off from Huddersfield when he came to us, and we shoved him out on the wing. There are countless players who have surprised us, and there as many who have disappointed us. Let's see what February brings, not November.l
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