Which is fine if they are been herded in the right direction.

I agree it is not negative to point out errors or talk about something a player did wrong. What I was picking up on was that some people ONLY look at the negative.

If Fox did some good things and some bad things then that is even not bad. If he is up against the best, and the other guy gets some good breaks and tries then of course hall in this case won that battle, but i don't think Fox had a bad game. He did a lot good and when he was put on the spot he did some things bad and some things not as well as Hall. (Not the same thing)

I'm not just looking at the positive either. I realise we have weaknesses under the high ball. BUT I do think our wingers do their best. And that deserves credit.

I thought ellis made good yards from dummy half,was eager for work, and distributed well.A lot of people have bagged agar i'm one, but what a difference a solid go forward pack made.Johnson and mariano had big games and they have struggled to get a regular slot which i think have frustated the faithful as they were ok last season.I hope he sticks with these guys, now let's kick on and have a solid run in without too much tinkering.

doing their best is a basic minimum requirement of anyone that plays sport at any level. not sure why that deserves credit as it's the default position.

That is so poor I'm not sure how to reply.

Doing your best in a sports context is not the same as trying hard.
Clearly at Wakefield we have watched players who have not given their best so it is not the norm.

Personally I give credit to anyone who pulls on the Wakefield jersey and gives their best.

That is so poor I'm not sure how to reply.

Doing your best in a sports context is not the same as trying hard.
Clearly at Wakefield we have watched players who have not given their best so it is not the norm.

Personally I give credit to anyone who pulls on the Wakefield jersey and gives their best.

these surely would make them the exceptions, and hence the rest, i.e. those giving their best, the norm.

it's not complicated.

Some times players don't play their best, happens in every game played, doesn't mean they weren't trying their best though att.

Probably because he's right and you're talking crud as normal. Have you ever defended against a winger as good as Hall, no thought not. Don't let the Leeds shirt fool you Ryan Hall is a big strong unit and the best winger in the SL - even the Aussies found him hard to play.

The pathetic reference to a turd in the trifle means I can only suggest one thing, sit down and give your brain a rest.

Surely those giving their average is the norm.......why is that difficult!

i feel like i've entered a battle of wits against an unarmed man.

enough.

let's both move on.

Did someone have to right that for you? Copying a clever comment doesn't make you clever!

But I agree lets move on. I'll still feel the way I do and I'm sure you'll remain the same.