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Quote: bren2k "You are Inflatable Armadillo, and I claim my £5.

(Or maybe you're not.)'"


I can confirm I am deffo not our inflatable friend.

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Quote: Trojan Horse "As crusaders go and harlequins the only things they have over wakey are stadia and expansion.
Community - again better with school links and Easter camps, tag teams, gala, etc.'"


I don't see how you could say your community scheme is better than ours. We are developing and promoting the game from Hove to Northampton, whereas yours is solely based in and around the Wakefield area. There are also more schools in London playing RL, than in 'hotbeds' such as Leeds and Hull (that line is taken from RLW article). We also have all the above that you've mentioned as to why your community is better than ours.

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www.wrexhamafc.co.uk/page/NewsDe ... 69,00.html

looks like 6th May for Wrexham and then the ground will be sold

hard times for them, and with Darlington too struggling too

sport at the lower levels are suffering
www.wrexhamafc.co.uk/page/NewsDe ... 69,00.html

looks like 6th May for Wrexham and then the ground will be sold

hard times for them, and with Darlington too struggling too

sport at the lower levels are suffering


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Quote: BIGAL1 "And thats why the RFL fall down, we dont have the weakest application and we don't own an empty shiny new stadium but i expect us to get the bullet.

I can understand the let downs the RFL have suffered from our club BUT if they can't see with a new owner and the way everythings improved at the club in a short space that we are not worth hanging on to then they are blind at best and stupid at worst.

This clubs on the up right across the board, what we need is the same sort of vision they have shown for Cru and Quins.'"



Good post I totally agree we are looking better off the field than we have looked in years and years I mean that also in such a short space of time. They could give us a ultimatum which i think would be better than just booting us out i.e. if newmarket doesnt get passed next year then you guys are out for halifax.

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We also interlink with schools outside the locality and have wide reaching dance classes, link in with education and all ages not just school but rugby for dads and lads through to women.

Gala days, dinners, auctions etc. The community side at wakey have done the club proud even when it all went wrong off season.

I think on this front we do well and If you've linked in with that wide a catchment area so well then how come you can't see the results of people walking through the turnstiles? Not a dig but wouldn't it be better to localise a little more and not try and expand your marketing/ community work too far afield.

Wakefield focus on their own catchment mainly and this is how it should be. Or should we expand and dilute our community teams influence by linking with schools, teams in cleckheaton.., I think not.

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At the end of it all there will be pros and cons in every teams franchise app. We won't get to see them.

It's a shame we have to discuss this side of the sport as fans tbf. I'm sure each team does there best at all aspects.

It should all come down to performance and having earned the right or lost the right as it goes. Promotion and relegation should never have been shelved but here we are.

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Quote: Pinkerton "I don't see how you could say your community scheme is better than ours. We are developing and promoting the game from Hove to Northampton, whereas yours is solely based in and around the Wakefield area. There are also more schools in London playing RL, than in 'hotbeds' such as Leeds and Hull (that line is taken from RLW article). We also have all the above that you've mentioned as to why your community is better than ours.'"


Yes but if you look at the quality of clubs that the Wakefield and Castleford area have the quality easily outweighs the quantity. It's ok saying there are more clubs playing in London area but are nowhere near the level of our clubs. If you look at other teams and did your research you can see that each club contains someone who has either played at Cas or wakey or has come from the area.

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Cleckheaton used to have a RL team, I played against them and John Bentley played for Cleckheaton RU.

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Quote: supercat "Yes but if you look at the quality of clubs that the Wakefield and Castleford area have the quality easily outweighs the quantity. It's ok saying there are more clubs playing in London area but are nowhere near the level of our clubs. If you look at other teams and did your research you can see that each club contains someone who has either played at Cas or wakey or has come from the area.'"


I'm not sure you can compare talent coming through junior clubs who have been around for decades to those who are only just starting to see the fruit blossoming - Clubb, McCarthy-Scarsbrook to name two England internationals.

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "I'm not sure you can compare talent coming through junior clubs who have been around for decades to those who are only just starting to see the fruit blossoming - Clubb, McCarthy-Scarsbrook to name two England internationals.'"


... and here it is.

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "I'm not sure you can compare talent coming through junior clubs who have been around for decades to those who are only just starting to see the fruit blossoming - Clubb, McCarthy-Scarsbrook to name two England internationals.'"


Then look at rest of the internationals not just England (as superleague is not just about English rugby) and i am sure you will see that there are a lot of players that have passed through the ranks in some form. Simple fact providing we stay in superleague we have a lot more to offer than QUINS AND CRUSADERS.

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Quote: supercat "Then look at rest of the internationals not just England (as superleague is not just about English rugby) and i am sure you will see that there are a lot of players that have passed through the ranks in some form. Simple fact providing we stay in superleague we have a lot more to offer than QUINS AND CRUSADERS.'"


I think you've missed my point. I'm not saying the clubs in our area don't produce internationals in much higher numbers than the clubs around London, just that our clubs have had a lot longer to get the systems/coaches/talent pool to be able to do that.

But, let's be honest, I may as well not bother because some smart Alec will have a go at me for posting this. maybe I should post crap about kids being born or hilarious banter with Cas fans about having six fingers rather than try to discuss issues on this board.

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "I think you've missed my point. I'm not saying the clubs in our area don't produce internationals in much higher numbers than the clubs around London, just that our clubs have had a lot longer to get the systems/coaches/talent pool to be able to do'"


There has been a professional RL club in London since the 1930's - every iteration has failed.

Isn't it simply that London is not and never will be a RL area?

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Quins have been around in some form or other for a fair few years now, pre Sl I believe.

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Quote: bren2k "There has been a professional RL club in London since the 1930's - every iteration has failed.'"


Acton & Willesden and Stretham & Mitcham lasted a season in 1935. London Highfield did the same in '33. Professional rugby, continually has only been played in the capital since 1981.

If you put an amateur club isomewhere with no links to the 'heartlands' say like Norwich, how long would you think it would take for them to develop the knowledge, skills and player pool to be able to produce a potential international rugby league player.

Quote: bren2k "Isn't it simply that London is not and never will be a RL area?'"


You obviously think not, so there's no discussion is there. Who knows what will happen in the future? 25 years ago you'd have thought it was dead in Huddersfield and we weren't too healthy then either. Things change.

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