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Quote: Slugger McBatt "I will be angry if Myler makes it into the Four Nations starting 17. He has done nothing to justify a start, and Eastmond and Burrows should take priority, and if he does get a start, we are back to club coaches preferring their own players. Noble did the same with Harris when he brought him back into League, used the national side as a training ground for his club side.'"

He has been named against France
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Quote: Slugger McBatt "I will be angry if Myler makes it into the Four Nations starting 17. He has done nothing to justify a start, and Eastmond and Burrows should take priority, and if he does get a start, we are back to club coaches preferring their own players. Noble did the same with Harris when he brought him back into League, used the national side as a training ground for his club side.'"

He has been named against France
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What is Westwood doing on the bench? Myler starting? I think it's time for a change of coach if he can't see past his club colours

Infact, i think even Tony Smith has no confidence in Myler if he is including Eastmond on the bench coupled with Roby! Why not put up the white flags now!

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Quote: Trinity Till Death "What is Westwood doing on the bench? Myler starting? I think it's time for a change of coach if he can't see past his club colours

Infact, i think even Tony Smith has no confidence in Myler if he is including Eastmond on the bench coupled with Roby! Why not put up the white flags now!'"


I actually rate Westwood, as a rough tough secondrow, his hands let him down from time to time but he offers a physical approach that no other secondrower does enjoys mixing it adds some mongrel to the pack.

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Quote: jonh "I actually rate Westwood, as a rough tough secondrow, his hands let him down from time to time but he offers a physical approach that no other secondrower does enjoys mixing it adds some mongrel to the pack.'"


I agree, i'm not saying i dislike Westwood but if your going to have Roby and Eastmond on your bench and Morley at prop then i really do think you need to go with two prop forwards. It just seems a very strange bench

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Quote: Trinity Till Death "I agree, i'm not saying i dislike Westwood but if your going to have Roby and Eastmond on your bench and Morley at prop then i really do think you need to go with two prop forwards. It just seems a very strange bench'"


It seems a very strange team! Not selecting Tomkins is a joke, England jumpers should be earned not given away. Myler has not earned his jumper regardless of the opposition, and should not be playing, he should not even be in the squad, his selection along with that of Lee Smith is a joke.

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Quote: jonh "It seems a very strange team! Not selecting Tomkins is a joke, England jumpers should be earned not given away. Myler has not earned his jumper regardless of the opposition, and should not be playing, he should not even be in the squad, his selection along with that of Lee Smith is a joke.'"
I should think the reason for leaving sam out is to save him for the new zealanders and aussies, as for smith quality player going to union no reason to cut the cord yet,
would we not pick a quality RU player if he came the other way to league, so how I don't think the 4 nations is going to get good viewings icon_sad.gif

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Quote: snowie "I should think the reason for leaving sam out is to save him for the new zealanders and aussies, as for smith quality player going to union no reason to cut the cord yet,
would we not pick a quality RU player if he came the other way to league, so how I don't think the 4 nations is going to get good viewings
I hope you are right regarding Tomkins but think you may be wrong, this game should be where we build and form relationships, it should not be a trial game like Wales.

Smith in my opinion should not be rewarded with an international cap for a sport he is turning his back on, Hunt is not in the Aussie squad.

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Quote: jonh "I hope you are right regarding Tomkins but think you may be wrong, this game should be where we build and form relationships, it should not be a trial game like Wales.

Smith in my opinion should not be rewarded with an international cap for a sport he is turning his back on, Hunt is not in the Aussie squad.'"
the aussies have more to select from and greed is now the norm they just go where the money is,

I posed a question to my lad the other week, if he was to go professional would he play for Wakefield or Keighley as we know Barry Eaton and he chose to play for Barry as he enjoyed being trained by him, that did surprise me for a second but then goes to show how a player can respect a coach and the influence they can have on them, while coaches come and go players then have to renew relationships with their new coaches and don't see eye to eye,
doesn't take long for them to move on then money is the big factor, I don't hold nowt against Lee for moving on let him have a reminder how good the game is in league

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Quote: snowie "the aussies have more to select from and greed is now the norm they just go where the money is,

I posed a question to my lad the other week, if he was to go professional would he play for Wakefield or Keighley as we know Barry Eaton and he chose to play for Barry as he enjoyed being trained by him, that did surprise me for a second but then goes to show how a player can respect a coach and the influence they can have on them, while coaches come and go players then have to renew relationships with their new coaches and don't see eye to eye,
doesn't take long for them to move on then money is the big factor, I don't hold nowt against Lee for moving on let him have a reminder how good the game is in league'"


I hold nothing against Lee Smith either, fair play to him, but i think representing your country in a sport is an honour, it has nothing to do with money, he has though chosen to cross to a new sport, will not be involved in the next World Cup and has the opportunity to go out on a high, this should not be encouraged in my opinion. I again think if he had no Tony Smith connection that he would have no chance of an England shirt.

Ask Barry for my conditioning routines back they were given in goo faith to one of his players not intended for the full squad!

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Quote: jonh "I hold nothing against Lee Smith either, fair play to him, but i think representing your country in a sport is an honour, it has nothing to do with money, he has though chosen to cross to a new sport, will not be involved in the next World Cup and has the opportunity to go out on a high, this should not be encouraged in my opinion. I again think if he had no Tony Smith connection that he would have no chance of an England shirt.

Ask Barry for my conditioning routines back they were given in goo faith to one of his players not intended for the full squad!'"
icon_eek.gif is that why they got promotion icon_lol.gif connection to TS has made the difference lets put Sykes in stead icon_sad.gif

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Quote: snowie "icon_eek.gif is that why they got promotion
Regardless of who we put in we are still going to get smashed, all we get from Smith is a lad who is going to take the benefit of his experience against the best in the world forward to union.

Gleeson should be in ahead of Smith, Yeaman should have another shot, his last go he was awesome but was dropped for no reason by BN and has struggled since, he deserves a shot.

There are plenty of this Australian touring party that that have been offered huge contracts in Sl and refused them as they want to represent there state and country, if England continue to give away shirts to people not deserving we will continue to see our National team, the most important team in the game in my opinion fade.

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "Myler is overated and Sykes is just pants who had 1 good season at quins thats it !'"


Myler is an outstanding prospect the fact is we dont have ONE international class halfback in SL
as for bloody McGuire hes the most overrated stand off in SL and dont even get we started on Pryce icon_razz.gif

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Quote: deeHell "Moore/Wilkes for Carvell, Burrows for Bridge, Gleeson for Sykes.
In the Larger train on squad Ferguson for Harrison.
Do you not think that Smith has showed any bias in his selections then?'"


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Quote: GET EM ON SIDE REF "Myler is an outstanding prospect the fact is we dont have ONE international class halfback in SL
as for bloody McGuire hes the most overrated stand off in SL and dont even get we started on Pryce
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Quote: jonh "Regardless of who we put in we are still going to get smashed, all we get from Smith is a lad who is going to take the benefit of his experience against the best in the world forward to union.

Gleeson should be in ahead of Smith, Yeaman should have another shot, his last go he was awesome but was dropped for no reason by BN and has struggled since, he deserves a shot.

There are plenty of this Australian touring party that that have been offered huge contracts in Sl and refused them as they want to represent there state and country, if England continue to give away shirts to people not deserving we will continue to see our National team, the most important team in the game in my opinion fade.'"



Dropping it from GB to England and the shirt giveaway, two reason why i have no interest in the international game.

Have always made at least one test match in the past but not anymore.

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