I did say it was the worst case scenario based on those players linked with other clubs. You are correct I don’t know but with your contacts please explain why every season the squad is slowly being weakened and why we appear not to be able to reverse it. If I remember it was you who suggested that with TJ being due a testimonial year shortly it may make him stay or the chance to play in our redeveloped ground would be such a draw to make them stay, do you actually believe these statements.
I don’t know other club’s finances I won’t ask how you do but I do know that we appear to like to make a point about our salary cap spending being the lowest in SL, this is not something to be proud of. I would have hoped by now that we had progressed with the improvement in our finances to be able to strengthen and to end the constant struggle to stay in SL. What marketing do we do and why does it fall on supporters to produce an history of the ground, surely this would be the first thing thought of by the club. I suppose we are lucky you came up with the idea all on your own maybe you could be a marketing consultant for the club.
I do not love other clubs despite you keep suggesting I do, at least I have in your eyes expanded my loyalty beyond Castleford.
We will see what happens at the end of this season I expect that Bill and Arona will leave, the rest we will just have to see along with the quality and ages of those we bring in.

His facts were a little incorrect when he used Steve Ella as an example of a veteran player at 28.

His fact and not facts as you only single out one, depends on the context of the particular fact, if Steve Ella had been playing with a team of players far younger than him, then indeed it would not be out of context to call him a veteran, depends how desperate you are to make a point really.

Or how desperate you are to back Vastman. It was you who claimed his fact based superiority, I was merely pointing out that as per usual your defence at my expense was wrong again. I think the reason given above suggests a little desperation on your part don’t you.

I back anybody that talks sense which does usually include vastman, I'd back you if you could get past your bitterness towards the club but I'm not holding my breath, it's a forum all the time squire not just when it suits you, and my reply to your post was not in desperation to be on his side but to point out my non agreement with your post, you could have just ignored my post, just like I promise you I will ignore your which will undoubtedly will be on it's way, goodbye.

It's always you and them.

He was an older player with an injury issue when we signed him. If that's not within your parameters then strike off Steve Ella, the point still stands.

For the record sometimes older players work out sometimes they don’t. Ditto younger players and everything in between. It’s a judgement call from people far more qualified than us.

You are scrambling for a reason but the subject at the time was veteran signings not injury history. With Brough then it would be valid or even Atkins when we resigned him a second time but Steve Ella was just wrong. We shall see if those people far more qualified than us get it correct at the end of this season.

Is this what you do, lose an argument and use pedantry as your last defence. Must be a hoot in your house at Christmas when the party games start.

I did not lose the argument I was not the one who brought Steve Ella to justify your opinion. I know you just can’t say you are wrong, it is sadly what some now accept as the norm.
If PT is thinking of telling me off don’t worry I have finished safe in the knowledge that despite his protestations he was blatantly wrong and not for the first time.
With regards the player in the topic I actually agreed you cannot assume he would be the same player had he signed for us but unfortunately he didn’t and now he is back at an NRL feeder club, from which I suppose he hopes to get a contract.

Ok ok have this one on me.

Another example I believe in respect of a player being at the correct club is Konrad Hurrell. He has many flaws but these in most cases are covered and he is put into position that best suits his attacking abilities. I think his time at Leeds showed that for them he was just not a good fit.