Disagree re Gaz Hock. He probably should have been up there with the best forwards in the world, he had all the physical ability and everything just come so natural to him, just a shame he did not have the noggin to go with it all! If he could have applied himself I have no doubt that he would have gone on to be talked about in the same vein as Ellis. That said, the brain is all part of the package and unfortunately he is just another sad causality of a player that could not control himself both on or off the field.

fair play to Wigan who have stood by Williams from junior while all other clubs seem to allow players to move from pillar to post in the look for the ultimate play maker so they can win the titles

as much as you all dislike Williams his CV is starting to fill up

I think there's some overly harsh criticism of Wiliams here - he's a really talented SH, but this weekend, he was hampered by a poor team performance; pivots only get to do the fancy stuff when their forwards lay a platform and protect them - and no one did that on Sunday.

He plays in a cauldron at Wigan and has come through from junior and made that position his own - which takes some doing at a club that could, more easily than most, import a replacement from pretty much anywhere.

Myler I do agree with however - he's got some skills and had a couple of good years at Warrington - but he's miles away from many of his peers.

Brough should definitely have played for England more than once.
Best British half back for over 10 years.
If players with suspect temperament had always been ignored the great Alex Murphy would not have had GB caps.

I think the only aspect of Williams game that you could properly criticise on the weekend was his kicking game, on more than a few occasions he seemed to have very little pressure on him from the defence yet delivered very poor kicks, failing to find the green. Myler was equally as bad with the kicks he put in, Myler was just invisible throughout the whole game TBF and to say he has played halfback at the top level for the past 10 years that`s just not good enough, If Bennett picks him in the squad again I would be very surprised.

Williams patchy for England at 7 but he had a very good year for Wigan after having gone off the boil the previous season. He may well well come good at international level but a) unfairly bagged over Sunday b) does he get a look in if Tomkins and Widdop are both fit? Was unsure on Tomkins initial selection at 7 but proved wrong, should have known better



Myler was a waste of time and if the Knights weren't touring one of the youngsters would have been in. Would rather have played Ratchford at 1 or 6 on Sunday than have Myler in the side against NZ.

I have been critical of Williams all series, but he's the best available at the present. He has been poor for last 2 seasons but prior to that showed consistent signs he was international class. Whereas Hampshire is lucky to be considered SL class given his erratic career. There is no comparison ATM.

Williams is an excellent talent, Rocky is better as I believe he is blessed with greater God given talents. Have a look at the England Academy tour highlights from 2012, Rocky was the stand out player on both sides. They both set of on the same path to stardom, Williams got the breaks. For whatever reason Wane, who has proved to be the greatest coach in SL history and a coach who has never been frightened of promoting youth, never gave Rocky a fair crack, he persisted in playing Smith. So Williams and Rocky`s paths went in different directions. My bet is that Rocky ends up a world class RL super star, his path will have been the more difficult but it will I think leave him better prepared to reach world RL superstar status. I also think Chester has a big role to play, Rocky should be a starting 7, Rough should be a back up player to cover 6, 7 and 1 in case of injury.

If Hampshire is better than Brough and/or brings more to the team currently then he plays, if not he does not, quite simple for me. Chester does not owe anything to anyone and should be picking what he believes to be his best team.

Apart from quicker pace I am not sure what better talents Hampshire possess. He's certainly kept them well hidden for the last 5 years.

I don't see how it's possible to say that Hampshire is better than Williams, since he's only really started in that position for us recently - whereas Williams has been Wigan's first choice for quite a while; he may well turn out to be, but since he's been held back for various reasons, he's quite some way behind Williams at this stage.

I'm sorry but Hampshires ability as a junior are now utterly irrelevant - loads of players look great at Academy level but never hack it against the misters.