I'd be disappointed to Jowitt is dropped off the back of last night but Chester has been pretty quick to haul players out this year for not being up to scratch - Johnstone, Pauli, Horo are three.

Bit of an over reaction to last night going on. Saints are the best team in the competition and were faster into defence and ran harder with the ball in hand. They'd done their homework and did a job on us.

Are you by any chance related to RTHICK95 from Eastmoor?

The mistakes from trying something I can take - that can happen to anyone, and the only way to avoid mistakes is to not do owt; the defensive ones are a bit harder to swallow, but all you can hope is that he watches the video, listens to his coaches, and learns as he goes.

Personally, I wouldn't drop him - I'd keep him for the remainder of the 8's so he can get a real opportunity to learn on the job; he's got massive potential, it just needs to come together.

Maybe we should have a topic called "This week's scapegoat is........".

He made some mistakes, he wasn't the only one.

I couldn't sit through the recording when I got home so I may be wrong but:

I thought the game changing moment was when Miller tried one sidestep too many instead of putting in a grubber or even a pass. He got ankle tapped and we had to go into headless chicken mode for about 3 passes until Huby was the 1st to get composed and try his own grubber. It, unfortunately, went dead and Saints got 7 tackles, went up field and scored their 1st try. The seal was broken.

The silly short offload in our own half to Pauli Pauli killed our come back.

Look forward to next game now.

That play you talk about Rocky had gone for the line so wasn't there to receive the ball. Why Huby a prop was receiving the ball I don't know but the fact it came to him twice in the set showed that the heads had been lost in that set. Should have gone right when Huby put the grubber in but also should have been in the hands of one of our pivots.

People were giving PP stick for the knock on but it was poor play. if passes are not in to PP's hands he's too big to get down low for them quickly. Killer moment.

Its that bit of composure we need, almost like some of them get too excited forcing the play.

That said, if it had found the hands and he'd crashed over, we'd be singing his name on the terraces.

I get the frustration, but short of playing 5 drives and a kick, we have to accept that with entertaining rugby, comes some inevitable mistakes; Saints made plenty too, it's just frustrating when several happen in the same game, and they *appear* to have caused a loss.

Hopefully with a time, a settled squad and another preseason together we'll see a reduction in these errors. Only really highlighted as some were jumping on PP's back about it. Fine line between hero and zero in sport sometimes.

Great young player, a great kid and Jow to his friends

Every player is allowed a drop in form for a game, and no doubt MJ had a game he will wish to forget.
I expected that the knives would be out for him before the final whistle went.
To drop him after one bad game, particularly when he was not alone would be rubbish!

When i watch the games i forget Grix is part of the squad, says a lot about the impact his prolonged absence has had.

You lose games, no players go out to play badly. We did what we needed to do this season with Jowitt at full back for a large part of it.
I suppose in a perverse sort of way I benefit from the fact that I have supported the club for long enough to watch both the good and really bad teams. The current squad is one of the best we have put together for about 20 years.
We have players committing long term to the club. We run various teams and are looking to put a reserve team out next season something Leeds a so called big club are complaining about.
I do not think that losing to St Helens requires a forum meltdown by some.