I'd be disappointed to Jowitt is dropped off the back of last night but Chester has been pretty quick to haul players out this year for not being up to scratch - Johnstone, Pauli, Horo are three.

Bit of an over reaction to last night going on. Saints are the best team in the competition and were faster into defence and ran harder with the ball in hand. They'd done their homework and did a job on us.

Are you by any chance related to RTHICK95 from Eastmoor?

The mistakes from trying something I can take - that can happen to anyone, and the only way to avoid mistakes is to not do owt; the defensive ones are a bit harder to swallow, but all you can hope is that he watches the video, listens to his coaches, and learns as he goes.

Personally, I wouldn't drop him - I'd keep him for the remainder of the 8's so he can get a real opportunity to learn on the job; he's got massive potential, it just needs to come together.

Maybe we should have a topic called "This week's scapegoat is........".

He made some mistakes, he wasn't the only one.

I couldn't sit through the recording when I got home so I may be wrong but:

I thought the game changing moment was when Miller tried one sidestep too many instead of putting in a grubber or even a pass. He got ankle tapped and we had to go into headless chicken mode for about 3 passes until Huby was the 1st to get composed and try his own grubber. It, unfortunately, went dead and Saints got 7 tackles, went up field and scored their 1st try. The seal was broken.

The silly short offload in our own half to Pauli Pauli killed our come back.

Look forward to next game now.

That said, if it had found the hands and he'd crashed over, we'd be singing his name on the terraces.

I get the frustration, but short of playing 5 drives and a kick, we have to accept that with entertaining rugby, comes some inevitable mistakes; Saints made plenty too, it's just frustrating when several happen in the same game, and they *appear* to have caused a loss.

Hopefully with a time, a settled squad and another preseason together we'll see a reduction in these errors. Only really highlighted as some were jumping on PP's back about it. Fine line between hero and zero in sport sometimes.

Great young player, a great kid and Jow to his friends

Every player is allowed a drop in form for a game, and no doubt MJ had a game he will wish to forget.
I expected that the knives would be out for him before the final whistle went.
To drop him after one bad game, particularly when he was not alone would be rubbish!

When i watch the games i forget Grix is part of the squad, says a lot about the impact his prolonged absence has had.

You lose games, no players go out to play badly. We did what we needed to do this season with Jowitt at full back for a large part of it.
I suppose in a perverse sort of way I benefit from the fact that I have supported the club for long enough to watch both the good and really bad teams. The current squad is one of the best we have put together for about 20 years.
We have players committing long term to the club. We run various teams and are looking to put a reserve team out next season something Leeds a so called big club are complaining about.
I do not think that losing to St Helens requires a forum meltdown by some.

I think there is a huge difference to the "meltdown" on here now and to the season when Kear finished his last spell in charge (as coach).
Back in those days, it was despair at just how bad things were.
Today, it's disappointment because we (the fans) know that had we played closer to our best, we would very likely have beaten Saints.
The 15 minutes in the second half, when we pulled back to 16 - 12 showed what we were capable of but, a couple of errors killed the momentum.
I haven't seen too many dummy spits or meltdown, just disappointment and considering this was a game against the LLS winners, it shows just how far we've come.
I'm proud to be a Trinity fan and the words from Andy Kelly about the promotion side, were quite moving.
Those guys gave our current side the opportunity to play in the top flight and the current squad are doing very nicely thank you.

I'm still dreaming of that trip to Wembley (to support Trinity) and I do feel that we should set our stall out to have a proper tilt at the cup next season.
I know that playing in SL will always be the primary target but, just imagine what a trip to the final would do for the club and the city.

I’ve been a member on here a long time, been reading these forums since 2004, though I don’t post much. The worst meltdown I’ve seen on here was the Hudds away under Tony Smith when we lost from 20-0 up (correct me if I’m wrong). The reaction was along the lines of we are relegated, the clubs bust etc etc
I don’t suppose a competitive loss at home vs the runaway league leaders is all that bad in perspective, is it...

Agree SP. In many of the years gone by our only concern when playing Saints would have been to keep the score down. Shows how fare we have come when we're disappointed that we didn't beat them.